Obama and The Nation Of Islam

[Kathianne]

The Nation of Islam is a very important organization for Black politicians in Chicago, which makes me think she's onto something here. I know Obama's church is strongly affiliated with NOI. Lots of links at site. At a minimum this is reminding me a lot of my problems with Ron Paul:

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archi...3339print.html

Debbie Schlussel: EXCLUSIVE - Obama's Nation of Islam Staffers, Edward Said & "Inflexible Jews" Causing Mid-East Conflict: An Obama Insider Reveals the Real Barack

By Debbie Schlussel - Copyright 2008

**** EXCLUSIVE: Must Cite Debbie Schlussel and/or DebbieSchlussel.com ****

Responding to criticism by Washington Post columnist Richard Cohen, Barack Obama declared his strong opposition to Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan:

I decry racism and anti-Semitism in every form and strongly condemn the anti-Semitic statements made by Minister Farrakhan.

Obama also went on to condemn his Church's award to Farrakhan and his minister's tight relationship with him.

But a former Obama insider says that Obama's sudden aversion to NOI and Farrakhan is belied by the fact that Obama employed and continues to employ several Farrakhan acolytes in high positions on his Illinois and U.S. Senate campaign and office staffs. I have verified that this person--who agreed to talk on the condition of anonymity--held a key position in the Obama campaign. The insider was so close to Senator Obama that they frequently personally discussed and exchanged direct e-mail messages on campaign and policy matters. This person is not connected with the Clintons and is not a disgruntled employee....

[Mr. P]

I donno, smells strongly of "political smear" don't ya think?

[Kathianne]

I donno, smells strongly of "political smear" don't ya think?

If not from Chicago, yeah I'd think so. It's sort of like someone saying that Jesse Jackson has held jobs. Well if appointed to certain things or funds being given through intimidation, uh huh. He's blackmailed through boycotts businesses all over Chicago. He forced a brewery to give one of his son's a distributorship. It's the 'Chicago School'. NOI is part and parcel of it, so it rings true.

[Mr. P]

If not from Chicago, yeah I'd think so. It's sort of like someone saying that Jesse Jackson has held jobs. Well if appointed to certain things or funds being given through intimidation, uh huh. He's blackmailed through boycotts businesses all over Chicago. He forced a brewery to give one of his son's a distributorship. It's the 'Chicago School'. NOI is part and parcel of it, so it rings true.

So maybe he's more like JFK that some think. JFK put in office by the Mob, Oboma by NOI? Interesting...ya think he'll complete his first term?

[Abbey Marie]

It makes no sense to continue to attend a church that epsouses things which you abhor. It is logical to judge Obama on the company he keeps. If awards and cozying up to Farakhan are really part of this church's m.o., then B. Hussein Obama is one scary guy to have in the White House.

[Kathianne]

It makes no sense to continue to attend a church that epsouses things which you abhor. It is logical to judge Obama on the company he keeps. If awards and cozying up to Farakhan are really part of this church's m.o., then B. Hussein Obama is one scary guy to have in the White House.

That's always been my feeling and response to Maineman regarding this problem with Obama's church, which seems to have changed its mission statement in the past month. If he truly feels that the award to Farrakhan was wrong, then why not find a church more in line with your cherished beliefs?

I most definately would not belong to a congregation where the leadership was handing out awards to David Duke or even Pat Buchanan, and the congregation in the main was in agreement.

[NATO AIR]

That's always been my feeling and response to Maineman regarding this problem with Obama's church, which seems to have changed its mission statement in the past month. If he truly feels that the award to Farrakhan was wrong, then why not find a church more in line with your cherished beliefs?

I most definately would not belong to a congregation where the leadership was handing out awards to David Duke or even Pat Buchanan, and the congregation in the main was in agreement.

Indeed. Disappointing if true but we shall see. If this was true I'd figure the Clintons would be all over it, as desperate as they are.

Good point about Chicago politics though.. it'd be kind of like a former LA mayor or politician running for president, God knows the kinds of ethnic alliances they would have had to make that were highly unethical in the long run.

[glockmail]

Indeed. Disappointing if true but we shall see. If this was true I'd figure the Clintons would be all over it, as desperate as they are.

.... .

This may be more powerful and deadly than the Clintons think they can handle.

[Mr. P]

Could this be a Real honest to God case of the enemy within, IF he was elected that is? Isn't that what the OP post suggests? I don't buy it, I really think it's a political smear, playing off fears of the unknown, but what if?

Is it time for this thread to head to the Conspiracy section...yet? I think so.

[Kathianne]

Could this be a Real honest to God case of the enemy within, IF he was elected that is? Isn't that what the OP post suggests? I don't buy it, I really think it's a political smear, playing off fears of the unknown, but what if?

Is it time for this thread to head to the Conspiracy section...yet? I think so.

No, I don't think that was the original point at all. It has to do with Black Power, more than anything else.

[Mr. P]

No, I don't think that was the original point at all. It has to do with Black Power, more than anything else.

I got Muslim/Islam power outta it.

[Kathianne]

I got Muslim/Islam power outta it.

Well eyes of the beholder and all that. NOI is Islamic, but the power it wields in the neighborhoods is Black. They provide safe haven and are anti-gang, but their political power is legion.

[Mr. P]

Well eyes of the beholder and all that. NOI is Islamic, but the power it wields in the neighborhoods is Black. They provide safe haven and are anti-gang, but their political power is legion.

Debbie Schlussel: EXCLUSIVE - Obama's Nation of Islam Staffers
I think anyone reading that, and the rest, would come to the same conclusion.

[Kathianne]

Debbie Schlussel: EXCLUSIVE - Obama's Nation of Islam Staffers
I think anyone reading that, and the rest, would come to the same conclusion.

Unless like I said from the get go, one is familiar with the NOI from Chicago. I'm sure Obama had to deal with these people, he doesn't anymore and people outside of Chicago are not going to understand in the least. Hell, people from Chicago don't understand this 'once' violent group.

[GW in Ohio]

That's always been my feeling and response to Maineman regarding this problem with Obama's church, which seems to have changed its mission statement in the past month. If he truly feels that the award to Farrakhan was wrong, then why not find a church more in line with your cherished beliefs?

I most definately would not belong to a congregation where the leadership was handing out awards to David Duke or even Pat Buchanan, and the congregation in the main was in agreement.

Kathianne: The attempt to connect Obama with the Nation of Islam is:

• Desperate
• Sleazy
• Slimy
• Chickenshit

If you want to try and bring Obama down, his statements about legalizing marijuana and giving driver's licenses to illegals ought to give you enough ammunition.

Don't try this chickenshit stuff. It demeans you.