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    Default Bush Goes Against Military Advisors in Tonights Speech

    "When President Bush goes before the American people tonight to outline his new strategy for Iraq, he will be doing something he has avoided since the invasion of Iraq in March 2003: ordering his top military brass to take action they initially resisted and advised against."

    -- Washington Post

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...?referrer=digg
    Last edited by Dfresh; 01-10-2007 at 11:52 PM.

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    Dougie Fresh, wassup with my ni....brotha?

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    Since military people can't make political statements it seems that report is inaccurate. The only comments being made are from retiree's who have nothing to do with events in iraq.

    He's making a decission based on input from a lot of sources, and his commanders on the ground carry the most weight. I doubt seriously he's ignoring their suggestions.
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    What's up Evil?

    Speech was better then I expected. Do you think deploying 20,000 more troops would stabilize Iraq?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dfresh View Post
    What's up Evil?

    Speech was better then I expected. Do you think deploying 20,000 more troops would stabilize Iraq?
    Depends on how they are deployed, IMO.
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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    deploying 20,000 and letting every troop do what they are trained to do with zero political input will win this war in 30 days....

    we trained them to kill.......let them kill

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Depends on how they are deployed, IMO.
    He stated that they are going after the areas they couldn't go into before, and sounds like he's telling the government of iraq, we are all going in after sadr and his gang and we are going in after the sunni gangs and we are taking over. And you WILL support us and do your part or we're finished with you.

    They have to do take and hold ops if its going to work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    He stated that they are going after the areas they couldn't go into before, and sounds like he's telling the government of iraq, we are all going in after sadr and his gang and we are going in after the sunni gangs and we are taking over. And you WILL support us and do your part or we're finished with you.

    They have to do take and hold ops if its going to work.
    Works for me. Taking ground and giving it back never made any sense to me, and ITA the Iraqis need to step up if they want to keep whatever their version of democracy is. That was always a part of the deal from the beginning as I understood it.

    It's also telegraphing our blow to the Islamofascists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dfresh View Post
    What's up Evil?

    Speech was better then I expected. Do you think deploying 20,000 more troops would stabilize Iraq?
    Hi Doug, was wondering what took ya so long to show up!

    Honestly I have'nt a clue what the answer is on this one. I do know pulling the troops out is a mistake, and a deadline makes no sense unless it was something that was kept secret...ha, like that would happen.

    I think as Manu stated a post or two up, allwoing the troops to do what they are there to do is a good start. I think cutting back on the media coverage is another good start. Too many things are being skewed that come out of there which in turn really has heated the whole thing up. Turn the lights out, let nature takes it course, and move on to another day.... or something like that.

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    The prez has appointed a whole new command team in Iraq, and they've been told to "win the war". Now if we LET them, we'll see results, fast.

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    Bush Says Sending More Troops To Iraq Would ‘Undermine Our Strategy


    http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/08/bush-more-troops/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil View Post
    Hi Doug, was wondering what took ya so long to show up!

    Honestly I have'nt a clue what the answer is on this one. I do know pulling the troops out is a mistake, and a deadline makes no sense unless it was something that was kept secret...ha, like that would happen.

    I think as Manu stated a post or two up, allwoing the troops to do what they are there to do is a good start. I think cutting back on the media coverage is another good start. Too many things are being skewed that come out of there which in turn really has heated the whole thing up. Turn the lights out, let nature takes it course, and move on to another day.... or something like that.
    hell dude...the media hates bush...bush should go on and say i have instructed the military to kill them all and if my approval rating goes to zero i don't care.....what are the going to do hate him twice as hard.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dfresh View Post
    Bush Says Sending More Troops To Iraq Would ‘Undermine Our Strategy


    http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/08/bush-more-troops/

    Who's the flip flopper now?
    he is just following miz pelosis advice form 2004...bush is a uniter not a divider dude

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    Seriously - when he doesn't send "enough" troops, he's going against his advisors...when he sends 'more' he's going against his advisors.

    Lame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    He stated that they are going after the areas they couldn't go into before, and sounds like he's telling the government of iraq, we are all going in after sadr and his gang and we are going in after the sunni gangs and we are taking over. And you WILL support us and do your part or we're finished with you.

    They have to do take and hold ops if its going to work.
    I agree with you, Gaffer..

    NOW lets go KICK SOME ASS...

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