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    Quote Originally Posted by Motown View Post
    US Army 1988-95. ETS'd as a SSGT E-6. 7th ID (Light at that time), 24th ID, 2nd ID.


    National Guard 1995-2000 and then 2002-2005.


    11B all the way through except for the last hitch, I was still 11B but I worked in S-2. Left the Guard as a MSGT E-8.


    I don't normally talk about my time in the service, the only civilian I've ever talked about it with was one of my sons when he told he wanted to enlist. It's kind of hard not to here though, there seem be a lot a veterans on this board.
    Why wouldn't you want to talk about it? It's part of your life's experience. I'm sure you learned lots of interesting things.
    Experienced Social Distancer ... waaaay before COVID.

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    I don't know exactly why I don't like talking to civilians about it, I just don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motown View Post
    I don't know exactly why I don't like talking to civilians about it, I just don't.
    Maybe you think they won't really get it (your experiences), so why bother?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tailfins View Post
    Why wouldn't you want to talk about it? It's part of your life's experience. I'm sure you learned lots of interesting things.
    Most vets don't. As Motown says, it's hard not to on the board. The means of communication here sort of dictates. While I am the same person in real life I am on this board, I don't talk much at all. I "talk" more on the board in a day than I do in 2 weeks in real life. But for someone like me who spent the first 40 years of his life in the military as a dependent then a Marine, it's REALLY hard not to. Same with ANY career military person.

    But there IS a disconnect. I'm a lousy civilian and I'll be the first to say it. Y'all are generally disorganized, inefficient, wasteful, and closed-minded.
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    But there IS a disconnect. I'm a lousy civilian and I'll be the first to say it. Y'all are generally disorganized, inefficient, wasteful, and closed-minded.
    Yeah, they are disorganized aren't they? And I bet you do suck something awful but at least you aren't the only one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motown View Post
    Yeah, they are disorganized aren't they? And I bet you do suck something awful but at least you aren't the only one.
    Not sure I like the way you said that.

    I'm a hardass prick by civilian standards, but I'm really not a mean person. Babies, kittens and puppies are like WTF-ever dude. Get me angry, we got a different discussion going on. Another civilian-military discrepancy. I don't go into combat to lose and when it's on it's ON. I have been chastised more than once hereabouts for such behavior.
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Maybe you think they won't really get it (your experiences), so why bother?
    I had to think about this. I don't think it's that they don't get it, my experience is that most civilians don't want to get it. They want to say thanks for your service and they have preconceived notions about what the military is like and they prefer to keep things that way.

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    I was in the army for six years during the Cold War.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GravyBoat View Post
    I was in the army for six years during the Cold War.

    Thank you for your service to our great country!

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    United States Air Force: 10/1979 - 10/1987, TSgt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post
    Saw this on facejoke, had to post it....

    Good One! Love it! So true!
    I have lost my mind. If found, please give it a snack and return it?

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    We may have sounded angry, or confused when we joined.
    We may have been upset for being away from home so long.
    But...we...UNLIKE THOSE WHO NEVER JOINED US....never Stopped Loving Our Country!
    I will forever, be proud of my service...even for those who Disrespect America.



    I remember the last sorry excuse for a president...calling Me, and Other Veterans...Home Grown Terrorists.

    And most of us can be heard saying..."Kiss My Ass You Traitor!"
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    US Navy, 86 to 96

    Worked on P3 and H53 out of Sigonella. Lots of detachments throughout Europe and middle east during desert storm. Even went on detachement to Hell, Norway. Been to hell and back and saw it froze over. Worked on C2 out of Norfolk. Airframes, AMS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    US Navy, 86 to 96

    Worked on P3 and H53 out of Sigonella. Lots of detachments throughout Europe and middle east during desert storm. Even went on detachement to Hell, Norway. Been to hell and back and saw it froze over. Worked on C2 out of Norfolk. Airframes, AMS

    Absolutely no regrets, I'd do it all again.


    I used to be Aboutime (below). Retired Navy 1964-95. Saw the P3's Orion's in Norva, and Puerto Rico. They still sound awesome but now being used by NOAA for Hurricane duties.
    Served on the USS Nassau LHA - 4 During both Shield and Storm. Miss it as much as you too! Also last saw Sigonella around 1985 or 86.
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