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    Default Purported Al Qaeda Video Shows Prisoners Burned Alive

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    http://videogaleri.hurriyet.com.tr/V...x?s=5&vid=2107


    Al Qaeda's latest display of terror has made its way onto the Internet, showing horrifying images of what appear to be prisoners in Iraq being doused with an inflammatory liquid and then burned alive.

    The video, which appears to have been posted first on Google last December in an alleged anti-Al Qaeda Web film, shows five insurgents standing behind three blindfolded prisoners kneeling at the edge of a burning pit.

    "And now that we have captured these scums who committed this dreadful crime, we will burn them with this fire," the Al Qaeda leader says in Arabic. "The same fire which they committed their crime with.

    "And I swear by God almighty that, I swear by God almighty that we will have no mercy on them," he continues. "Allahuakbar, Allahuakbar."

    As he speaks, two of the insurgents pour liquid on the blindfolded prisoners. Then they push the bound men into the pit, where they are engulfed in flames.

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    They're not insurgents, they're terrorists. Insurgents is a name given by liberals so we could feel all warm and fuzzy about these bastards.
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    One of the bests posts in awhile



    Quote Originally Posted by 82Marine89 View Post
    They're not insurgents, they're terrorists. Insurgents is a name given by liberals so we could feel all warm and fuzzy about these bastards.

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    It's only "terrorism" if someone else is doing it. If the same methods were used to interrogate "enemy combatants," you would all be in favor of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    It's only "terrorism" if someone else is doing it. If the same methods were used to interrogate "enemy combatants," you would all be in favor of it.
    Right. Now you equate burning alive with underwear on heads. Good move, Gabby.

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    It's more than that. Try water boarding, stomping someone's head into human excrement, cattle prods, dog attacks, etc.

    No, I am NOT defending torture. It's pretty barbaric. But these scumbags are not labeled "terrorists" for nothing. We give them partial vindication when we also resort to torture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    It's more than that. Try water boarding, stomping someone's head into human excrement, cattle prods, dog attacks, etc.

    No, I am NOT defending torture. It's pretty barbaric. But these scumbags are not labeled "terrorists" for nothing. We give them partial vindication when we also resort to torture.
    Still you are saying to equate burning alive with 'torture', regardless of definition. In any case, if one is left alive, seems better than dead, no? At least one has a chance of retribution, ala Zawahiri after Egyptian torture, no?

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    I agree, and why is their the fixation on waterboarding, when it only happened three times, are they gonna say sleep deprivation, and other methods of making them uncomfortable are the same as burning alive too?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Still you are saying to equate burning alive with 'torture', regardless of definition. In any case, if one is left alive, seems better than dead, no? At least one has a chance of retribution, ala Zawahiri after Egyptian torture, no?

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    They only admitted it happened three times. It's actually supposed to be a fairly common method of "interrogation."

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    They only admitted it happened three times. It's actually supposed to be a fairly common method of "interrogation."
    Who cares? Where is the equivalency you were calling for?

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    You can’t really equate execution/murder to torture for info. They are not the same thing. The possiblity of physical pain are the only real similarity.

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    I will grant you that its possible it happened more then three times, but still, besides water boarding, do you believe we are looking for new ways to harm terrorists, or enjoy having to do it

    Just wondering

    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    They only admitted it happened three times. It's actually supposed to be a fairly common method of "interrogation."

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    It's only "terrorism" if someone else is doing it. If the same methods were used to interrogate "enemy combatants," you would all be in favor of it.
    burning someone alive as an interrogation tool would be highly ineffective....
    ...full immersion.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    It's more than that. Try water boarding, stomping someone's head into human excrement, cattle prods, dog attacks, etc.

    No, I am NOT defending torture. It's pretty barbaric. But these scumbags are not labeled "terrorists" for nothing. We give them partial vindication when we also resort to torture.
    Gabby. We do not execute folks by burning them alive. I want you to stop and concentrate on how your last minutes would feel as you burn to death.

    Waterboarding is more psychological than physical.

    Now, if we were using a blowtorch on the extremities to gather information, you would have an equivalency.
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