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**PostmodernProphet** · 02-18-2008, 07:26 AM

so a friend of my daughter was over last night, and his roommate had just gotten back from visiting his cousin in Illinois......she lived in an apartment and a few weeks ago the neighbor upstairs was making a lot of noise and her daughter couldn't sleep so she went up and complained.....he was pretty nice about it and apologized......last week it happened again, at 3 am it sounded like someone was dropping the furniture against the floor....she went and knocked on his door.....the noise stopped but he wouldn't come to the door.....

later that day her apartment complex was swarming with police.....the reason?.....the guy upstairs had walked into a college lecture hall and opened fire on everyone......

**chesswarsnow** · 02-18-2008, 08:16 AM

Sorry bout that,

1. I can guarantee that man was taken by the devil.
2. Tricked.
3. Happens all the time, and always has.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

**truthmatters** · 02-18-2008, 09:55 AM

Wow the Flip Wilson defense "the devil made me do it".

Life is a little more complex than that.

There has been a rash of these types of attacks and they are related to the drugs they put these people on for pshyc reasons. They flip out big time when they go off meds. You can thank the drug companies for these types of attacks. The drugs they are pushing to the pshyc people are causing these reactions. Mild mannered kids all of the sudden what to blow everyone away.

**Monkeybone** · 02-18-2008, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by truthmatters

Wow the Flip Wilson defense "the devil made me do it".

Life is a little more complex than that.

There has been a rash of these types of attacks and they are related to the drugs they put these people on for pshyc reasons. They flip out big time when they go off meds. You can thank the drug companies for these types of attacks. The drugs they are pushing to the pshyc people are causing these reactions. Mild mannered kids all of the sudden what to blow everyone away.

maybe. but most of the cases are when the person has gone off of the meds, then they flip out. you wanna sue the drug companies for making the person stop taking the pills? oh wait..they didn't. the person themselves did it.

and to take "the person themselves did it" is true in the manner that the devil can't make you do anything. it is sad that whatever was going on in this guys gave him this idea.

**truthmatters** · 02-18-2008, 10:08 AM

I never said a thing about sueing now did I?

This is about saving lives.

If the brain chemistry is so altered by the drug that when the person fails to take them they will become a killing spree monster than maybe we should not leave it up to people with mental problems to take them or not?

Maybe they should have to use other drugs for their treatment huh?

The drug companies should fess up and stop selling these particuar meds.

**Hugh Lincoln** · 02-18-2008, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet

so a friend of my daughter was over last night, and his roommate had just gotten back from visiting his cousin in Illinois......she lived in an apartment and a few weeks ago the neighbor upstairs was making a lot of noise and her daughter couldn't sleep so she went up and complained.....he was pretty nice about it and apologized......last week it happened again, at 3 am it sounded like someone was dropping the furniture against the floor....she went and knocked on his door.....the noise stopped but he wouldn't come to the door.....

later that day her apartment complex was swarming with police.....the reason?.....the guy upstairs had walked into a college lecture hall and opened fire on everyone......

Quite a connection to a tragedy...

**Monkeybone** · 02-18-2008, 10:13 AM

how do you know that they wouldn't have just gone a killing spree earlier if they hadn't taken the meds? this is like any other kinda meds, it helps some, some it doesn't. so for the few that stop it on their own, the drugs should be called-back and just screw the ppl that it helps?

or ppl on this kinda drug, should they be required to have a visit every week with blood test to make sure that they haven't stopped taking these meds that keep them from becoming a psychopathic killer?

didn't mean that you wanted to sue the companies. just an overall you

**truthmatters** · 02-18-2008, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by Monkeybone

how do you know that they wouldn't have just gone a killing spree earlier if they hadn't taken the meds? this is like any other kinda meds, it helps some, some it doesn't. so for the few that stop it on their own, the drugs should be called-back and just screw the ppl that it helps?

or ppl on this kinda drug, should they be required to have a visit every week with blood test to make sure that they haven't stopped taking these meds that keep them from becoming a psychopathic killer?

didn't mean that you wanted to sue the companies. just an overall you

MonkeyB, these incidents are happening at an alarming rate. There are a slew of new meds on the market. I really wish someone would compare all the incidents to see which meds each person was taking and wether there is a direct correlation. The drug companies are not going to do it are they?

**Monkeybone** · 02-18-2008, 10:37 AM

no, it would mean loss of money for them.

but i do agree that this 'trend' is becoming way to common.

**truthmatters** · 02-18-2008, 10:39 AM

Think about it , they have all been mousy guys no one would fear , had a history of non violent metal illness , stop taking their meds and then a couple of weeks later they go Rambo on the asses of strangers.

There is a definate pattern.

**Monkeybone** · 02-18-2008, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by truthmatters

Think about it , they have all been mousy guys no one would fear , had a history of non violent metal illness , stop taking their meds and then a couple of weeks later they go Rambo on the asses of strangers.

There is a definate pattern.

understandable. but at the same time it may not be the drug. with all of them happening, they may have been watching TV and gone "there's a way to go out so someone will notice and remember me"

**truthmatters** · 02-18-2008, 11:13 AM

If it were TV then I think we would be seeing many more of these.

There was a texas tower incident years ago that was BIG news and we did not have repeted incidents.

These new drugs CHANGE a persons brain chemistry. That is how they help them. They also make the person feel like a Zomby. The act of going off them may cause a brain chemistry reaction that would have never happend if the person had never taken them. We take drugs off the market for a number of reason and saving lives sure seems like a good reason to me?

**Monkeybone** · 02-18-2008, 11:29 AM

understandable. but throwing in that savings lives arguement, then we should ban cigs and booze. i think that they have probably killed more in the last year than a shooter.

so instead of trying to help someone with these drugs then how do you help them? if someone gets diagnosed with some sort of psychopathy just lock them up? have a specail community for them, so that way if they do snap, then hey! it was atleast with other ones that might have snapped.

**gabosaurus** · 02-18-2008, 12:18 PM

Tom Cruise says all of you are wrong...

**truthmatters** · 02-18-2008, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by Monkeybone

understandable. but throwing in that savings lives arguement, then we should ban cigs and booze. i think that they have probably killed more in the last year than a shooter.

so instead of trying to help someone with these drugs then how do you help them? if someone gets diagnosed with some sort of psychopathy just lock them up? have a specail community for them, so that way if they do snap, then hey! it was atleast with other ones that might have snapped.

This is nothing like the cig thing.

They can be treated with other drugs which dont cause these reactions.

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