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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    So...you admit that "Clinton didn't send them there"?
    Did I stutter or did your brain skip? Bush sent the Marines as security for UN relief workers. Clinton allowed the army to be used as nation-builders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 82Marine89 View Post
    Did I stutter or did your brain skip? Bush sent the Marines as security for UN relief workers. Clinton allowed the army to be used as nation-builders.
    Bush sent them in under UN cover... Clinton inherited it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    Bush sent them in under UN cover... Clinton inherited it.
    Now why would he send the Marines there under UN cover?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 82Marine89 View Post
    Now why would he send the Marines there under UN cover?

    ask him

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    ask him
    You said it, now back it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 82Marine89 View Post
    You said it, now back it up.
    easy
    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl.../etc/cron.html

    With only weeks left in his term as president, George Bush responds to the UN request, proposing that US combat troops lead an international UN force to secure the environment for relief operations. On December 5, the UN accepts his offer, and Bush orders 25,000 US troops into Somalia. On December 9th, the first US Marines land on the beach.

    oops..... your turn, jarhead

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    easy
    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl.../etc/cron.html

    With only weeks left in his term as president, George Bush responds to the UN request, proposing that US combat troops lead an international UN force to secure the environment for relief operations. On December 5, the UN accepts his offer, and Bush orders 25,000 US troops into Somalia. On December 9th, the first US Marines land on the beach.

    oops..... your turn, jarhead
    question.....who ordered the strike on the war lords that got our boys killed?.....btw they did get the guy if memory serves....

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    easy
    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl.../etc/cron.html

    With only weeks left in his term as president, George Bush responds to the UN request, proposing that US combat troops lead an international UN force to secure the environment for relief operations. On December 5, the UN accepts his offer, and Bush orders 25,000 US troops into Somalia. On December 9th, the first US Marines land on the beach.

    oops..... your turn, jarhead
    Squidward, I'm not denying Bush sent them. I posted that he did. What I am stating and you are refusing to address is that Clinton allowed them to be used as nation-builders and it resulted in the deaths of 18 Americans and injuries to 84 more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 82Marine89 View Post
    Squidward, I'm not denying Bush sent them. I posted that he did. What I am stating and you are refusing to address is that Clinton allowed them to be used as nation-builders and it resulted in the deaths of 18 Americans and injuries to 84 more.
    Clinton continued the mission started by his predecessor. Wanna blame someone for Americans being in harm's way in Somalia, blame Bush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    Clinton continued the mission started by his predecessor. Wanna blame someone for Americans being in harm's way in Somalia, blame Bush.
    Why didn't he just pull out? He's experienced at that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 82Marine89 View Post
    Why didn't he just pull out? He's experienced at that.
    it was a worthwhile mission.

    the last gasp for those beaten badly in debates here is the lame attempt at humor. I accept your sword. adios.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    it was a worthwhile mission.

    the last gasp for those beaten badly in debates here is the lame attempt at humor. I accept your sword. adios.
    A worthwhile mission? Didn't you say...

    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    host nation forces refers to armed forces. where does it discuss babysitting political squabbles amongst civilians? When has that EVER been a mission of the US military?
    How can you be against "babysitting political squabbles amongst civilians" and claim that this was a worthwhile mission? Weren't we babysitting a political squabble? Clinton kept us there as nation builders. Is that what our military is for? Because of your worthwhile mission 18 soldiers died and 84 more were awarded Purple Hearts. You consider that worthwhile?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 82Marine89 View Post
    A worthwhile mission? Didn't you say...



    How can you be against "babysitting political squabbles amongst civilians" and claim that this was a worthwhile mission? Weren't we babysitting a political squabble? Clinton kept us there as nation builders. Is that what our military is for? Because of your worthwhile mission 18 soldiers died and 84 more were awarded Purple Hearts. You consider that worthwhile?
    I do not look upon the mission that Bush the First got us into as babysitting a political squabble, but helping provide food to refugees.

    and I think for you to castigate Clinton for 18 dead GI's while giving Bush a free pass on 3970 is disgusting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    I do not look upon the mission that Bush the First got us into as babysitting a political squabble, but helping provide food to refugees.

    and I think for you to castigate Clinton for 18 dead GI's while giving Bush a free pass on 3970 is disgusting.
    I haven't given him a free pass, but that is not the topic here. What I am simply pointing out is that Clinton could have easily removed the troops, but he allowed them to be used as nation builders. That caused the unnecessary deaths and injuries of American servicemen.
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