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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    because their flock are african americans.
    thank you.

    would you support a president whose flock was only white americans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    thank you.

    would you support a president whose flock was only white americans?

    Would I support a president who attended a church in an all white neighborhood and, therefore, only white people attended? Certainly. Would I support a president who attended a church in a neighborhood where many AIDS patients lived and the ministry of that church was supportive of that population? absolutely. In the end, where a president does or does not worship ought to have little bearing on his performance as president....

    separation of church and state, you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    Would I support a president who attended a church in an all white neighborhood and, therefore, only white people attended? Certainly. Would I support a president who attended a church in a neighborhood where many AIDS patients lived and the ministry of that church was supportive of that population? absolutely. In the end, where a president does or does not worship ought to have little bearing on his performance as president....

    separation of church and state, you know.
    Where is the neighborhood with 'many AIDS patients? Whoops, just a feel good gotcha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    they are americans. black americans in an economically depressed community...and Trinity UCC is trying to give them a sense of pride. Why would you be so against that. It does not hurt you. They are not pledging allegiance to another country...
    are they americans? i don't think so:

    We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent

    your blind zealousness has caused you to lose sight of this issues.

    how many more times do i have to post this before you address it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    Would I support a president who attended a church in an all white neighborhood and, therefore, only white people attended? Certainly. Would I support a president who attended a church in a neighborhood where many AIDS patients lived and the ministry of that church was supportive of that population? absolutely. In the end, where a president does or does not worship ought to have little bearing on his performance as president....

    separation of church and state, you know.
    you are lying sack of waste with this post. you normally have my respect, but this post sinks you.

    kkk -- that is my church. i strongly believe jesus christ wants only white people to be in power. oh yeah. only whites. why do you think blacks have been "lower" class citizens as you say? because jesus wants only whites to be in power.

    now vote for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    Would I support a president who attended a church in an all white neighborhood and, therefore, only white people attended? Certainly. Would I support a president who attended a church in a neighborhood where many AIDS patients lived and the ministry of that church was supportive of that population? absolutely. In the end, where a president does or does not worship ought to have little bearing on his performance as president....

    separation of church and state, you know.
    Nor should his run for presidency have anything to with his racist church. Now how are you "uplifting" these people of African descent ?

    A nutcase will do nutty things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    you are lying sack of waste with this post. you normally have my respect, but this post sinks you.

    kkk -- that is my church. i strongly believe jesus christ wants only white people to be in power. oh yeah. only whites. why do you think blacks have been "lower" class citizens as you say? because jesus wants only whites to be in power.

    now vote me
    Trinity UCC church tries to uplift and empower its congregants. There are many caucasian members of that church who think that empowering and uplifting black americans is a worthy goal. There are straight members of UCC churches in predominantly gay neighborhoods who think that helping AIDS sufferers is a worthy goal. Trinity does not seek to subjegate or denigrate white americans...it preaches to its flock.

    and if believing that causes me to lose your respect, it was really nothing I should have ever sought in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    Trinity UCC church tries to uplift and empower its congregants.
    How ?

    A nutcase will do nutty things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    Trinity UCC church tries to uplift and empower its congregants. There are many caucasian members of that church who think that empowering and uplifting black americans is a worthy goal. There are straight members of UCC churches in predominantly gay neighborhoods who think that helping AIDS sufferers is a worthy goal. Trinity does not seek to subjegate or denigrate white americans...it preaches to its flock.

    and if believing that causes me to lose your respect, it was really nothing I should have ever sought in the first place.
    why do you keep ignoring this:


    We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    why do you keep ignoring this:


    We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent
    Too much Scotch---and too few answers.

    A nutcase will do nutty things.

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    why do you keep ignoring this:


    We are a WHITE people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother WHITE continent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    Nor should his run for presidency have anything to with his racist church. Now how are you "uplifting" these people of African descent ?
    Obama's run for the presidency has nothing to do with his church, and I disagree with your suggestion that his church is racist. As to what MY church is doing to uplift people of african descent? We are doing nothing in support of that mission... my particular church has chosen homelessness and poverty as our mission. We don't have a large african american population in need of care... we do have plenty of poor and homeless people living in the urban area of our church and we are ministering to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    why do you keep ignoring this:


    We are a WHITE people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother WHITE continent

    what IS the mother white continent?

    Do you throw this sort of hissy fit when NYC has a big St. Patrick's Day parade and all the irishmen show that they remain true to the emerald isle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    Too much Scotch---and too few answers.

    actually, I give up all alcoholic beverages for Lent and have for the past decade, anyhow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    Obama's run for the presidency has nothing to do with his church, and I disagree with your suggestion that his church is racist. As to what MY church is doing to uplift people of african descent? We are doing nothing in support of that mission... my particular church has chosen homelessness and poverty as our mission. We don't have a large african american population in need of care... we do have plenty of poor and homeless people living in the urban area of our church and we are ministering to them.
    My church is fully supportive of his chuch's mission
    We are doing nothing in support of that mission

    A nutcase will do nutty things.

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