True to our Native Land

[Dilloduck]

the church is not segregated. It is a church in a predominately black, economically depressed neighborhood. They do not exclude whites from joining their church. There are many white members AND staff members. Their mission is uplifting and nurturing the black congregants in their neighborhood. All the members of the church - black and white - are supportive of that mission.

but don't listen to me. I am just a member of the UCC...what the fuck would I know? Ask Dildo....he's working up a cute standup routine...that makes HIM the expert on the Trinity UCC.

bla bla bla--no wonder you're an Obama man--try to baffle em with bullshit and feel good talk. Try answering some questions.

[retiredman]

bla bla bla--no wonder you're an Obama man--try to baffle em with bullshit and feel good talk. Try answering some questions.

I answered every question.

which one do you think I missed?

[avatar4321]

the church is not segregated. It is a church in a predominately black, economically depressed neighborhood. They do not exclude whites from joining their church. There are many white members AND staff members. Their mission is uplifting and nurturing the black congregants in their neighborhood. All the members of the church - black and white - are supportive of that mission.

but don't listen to me. I am just a member of the UCC...what the fuck would I know? Ask Dildo....he's working up a cute standup routine...that makes HIM the expert on the Trinity UCC.

Why should one congregant be nourished while the other isnt when they are both in the same impoverished conditions?

[Dilloduck]

I answered every question.

which one do you think I missed?

Originally Posted by manfrommaine
Trinity UCC church tries to uplift and empower its congregants.

How ?

There's one. Let's start easy

[avatar4321]

they are not, but one can understand how, after three centuries of discrimination, some black americans might have grown to think so. The church tries to teach them otherwise. I would think you would applaud such a goal....

again how does teaching "ethnic pride" as you call it, help teach people that they are all fellowcitizens?

[retiredman]

Originally Posted by manfrommaine
Trinity UCC church tries to uplift and empower its congregants.

How ?

There's one. Let's start easy

by giving them a sense of cultural identity and significance.

[Dilloduck]

again how does teaching "ethnic pride" as you call it, help teach people that they are all fellowcitizens?

I like how he's calls blacks "them" ---like they are all the same

[Dilloduck]

by giving them a sense of cultural identity and significance.

African culture and African significance ??

[retiredman]

again how does teaching "ethnic pride" as you call it, help teach people that they are all fellowcitizens?

it helps teach them that they are equal citizens. Irishmen can be proud of their Irish heritage and form clubs and associations that glorify their ancestral home, and nobody bats an eye. Trinity UCC tries to make downtrodden black americans be proud of their black heritage and their cultural connection to the african continent, and when THEY do it, every white boy on the internet is threatened. give it a break

[retiredman]

African culture and African significance ??

yep. African culture and their significance as black americans with a heritage that is greater than slave stories.

[retiredman]

I like how he's calls blacks "them" ---like they are all the same

that is incorrect and not very humorous.

[Dilloduck]

downtrodden black americans

Dragging up cliche'd garbage now ? Can you go on for hours with crap like Obama does?

[avatar4321]

it helps teach them that they are equal citizens. Irishmen can be proud of their Irish heritage and form clubs and associations that glorify their ancestral home, and nobody bats an eye. Trinity UCC tries to make downtrodden black americans be proud of their black heritage and their cultural connection to the african continent, and when THEY do it, every white boy on the internet is threatened. give it a break

i dont see irishmen swearing loyalty to the motherland.

Nor do I see how knowledge of ethnicity helps one become an equal citizen. Most people, sadly, are completely ignorant of their heritage. That doesn't mean they are any less citizens than those who are.

I'm not threatened, so I don't know who you are talking about. Not everyone who questions illogical propaganda is afraid of anything. Quite the opposite. You see we actually would love to see everyone succeed.

That's the difference between you and I. You look at someone and see them as second class citizens. I look at them and see them as people. I just dont see how you can teach people to segregate themselves and expect them to view themselves as equal with everyone. It doesn't make sense.

[Dilloduck]

yep. African culture and their significance as black americans with a heritage that is greater than slave stories.

Oh please---name me some great black Africans. Idi Amin doesn't count. I'll give ya Shaka the zulu---he was pretty cool.

[retiredman]

i dont see irishmen swearing loyalty to the motherland.

Nor do I see how knowledge of ethnicity helps one become an equal citizen. Most people, sadly, are completely ignorant of their heritage. That doesn't mean they are any less citizens than those who are.

I'm not threatened, so I don't know who you are talking about. Not everyone who questions illogical propaganda is afraid of anything. Quite the opposite. You see we actually would love to see everyone succeed.

That's the difference between you and I. You look at someone and see them as second class citizens. I look at them and see them as people. I just dont see how you can teach people to segregate themselves and expect them to view themselves as equal with everyone. It doesn't make sense.

Trinity does not swear loyalty to their motherland...they try to remain true to the cultural traditions of the african continent. They want their congregants to be aware of the rich cultural heritage of their ancestral home and not have their cultural history be defined solely by forced servitude, sharecropping, lynchings, separate but equal, and the back of the bus. I applaud that mission

And please don't put words in my mouth or pretend to know how I see people.