Have You Forgotten?

[nevadamedic]

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I figured this is more fitting under the War On Terrorism thread then music. This is definatly not a video you can watch and have dry eyes.

[Psychoblues]

I think about what lead up to it, the misintelligence that was precipitated afterward, the 4000 American lives lost in a war on people that had nothing to do with it and the lies by otherwise national leaders that have never been brought to account for their military/industial fascist endeavors and misdeeds and I cry a bit myself.

[actsnoblemartin]

I think many have forgetton and act like their is no such thing as radical islam, islamo-nazi's, and a global war on terror, which europe and asia need to be more helpful with

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I figured this is more fitting under the War On Terrorism thread then music. This is definatly not a video you can watch and have dry eyes.

[actsnoblemartin]

can you be a bit more specific, because i hear people say bush lied, but many countries believed the intelligence reports on iraq, and many dems, including the clintons believed we need a regime change in iraq

Thanks

I think about what lead up to it, the misintelligence that was precipitated afterward, the 4000 American lives lost in a war on people that had nothing to do with it and the lies by otherwise national leaders that have never been brought to account for their military/industial fascist endeavors and misdeeds and I cry a bit myself.

[nevadamedic]

I think about what lead up to it, the misintelligence that was precipitated afterward, the 4000 American lives lost in a war on people that had nothing to do with it and the lies by otherwise national leaders that have never been brought to account for their military/industial fascist endeavors and misdeeds and I cry a bit myself.

So the Taliban and Bin Laden didn't have anything to do with it? That's what the video was talking about. Iraq was just an added bonus.

[MtnBiker]

An added bonus? bonus to what?

[Psychoblues]

Iraq is a bonus to who, nm? With only 10% or less of the troops in the theatre of operations stationed in Afghanistan, just who was the bonus intended to benefit?

So the Taliban and Bin Laden didn't have anything to do with it? That's what the video was talking about. Iraq was just an added bonus.

[actsnoblemartin]

my honest 2 cents

bonus: no

distraction: yes

Being able to see through political bs: priceless

So the Taliban and Bin Laden didn't have anything to do with it? That's what the video was talking about. Iraq was just an added bonus.

[nevadamedic]

Iraq is a bonus to who, nm? With only 10% or less of the troops in the theatre of operations stationed in Afghanistan, just who was the bonus intended to benefit?

The thousands of innocent Iraqui's that were being tortured and killed for no reason by an evil dictator.

[Psychoblues]

In more than 30 years he didn't kill and torture as many as the USA has done in just a few years.

The thousands of innocent Iraqui's that were being tortured and killed for no reason by an evil dictator.

Seriously, you don't get it, do you?

[actsnoblemartin]

saddam killed and maimed, what 3 to 4 hundred thousand in twenty years give or take.

Sp what are you basing this on, and what proof do you have before i give my opinion

In more than 30 years he didn't kill and torture as many as the USA has done in just a few years.






Seriously, you don't get it, do you?

[actsnoblemartin]

I almost wonder if we can stop living in the past, but still not forget it.

We seem to either be stuck on 9/11 or 3/19 (the day before the iraq invasion)

instead of 2/24

[Psychoblues]

Those who forget the past are destined to repeat the failures that have already occurred in many cases many times. Where do you find yourself in that observation, martin?

[actsnoblemartin]

I agree with that we should learn about the past, learn from its mistakes.

all im saying is, we have to live in today, with the knowledge of the past, we cant go back and fix what was in the past, but we can make today great, and tommorrow better

Those who forget the past are destined to repeat the failures that have already occurred in many cases many times. Where do you find yourself in that observation, martin?

[bullypulpit]

The thousands of innocent Iraqui's that were being tortured and killed for no reason by an evil dictator.

So why haven't US forces invaded Burma?...North Korea?...Sudan?...Or any of the other multitude of countries under despotic rule? Your logic, to remain consistent, must be open to such action.

Iraq was a war of choice, and a bad choice at that. There was no Al Qaeda in Iraq prior to the US invasion.

Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11.

There was no reason to invade Iraq beyond Chimpy McPresident's desire to work off his woody for Saddam. In doing so, Bush sowed the whirlwind...And we will reap its bitter fruits for years to come.