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    Long has this country abhored and loved its immigrants. Some were well treated, others not. Immigrants continue to arrive today. does any of this seem familiar -- for i believe it was probably a similar headline over 100 years ago:

    Study finds immigrants commit less California crime

    SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Immigrants are far less likely than the average U.S.-born citizen to commit crime in California, the most populous state in the United States, according to a report issued late on Monday.

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    if you think the story ends there it does not. read the rest and see the stats. i don't think the stats of the yellow journalism source are accurate, nor, if accurate, actually represent anything substantial to support their claim. IOW, their stats are screeeeweeeey.


    long gone (apparently) are the days when immigrants came here because of the belief that america could/would make them a better life. now, it is as if they make it accross the literal and proverbial fence, then the magical dream is theirs automatically.

    this is not reality.

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    What do you have to dispute them, jerk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    Long has this country abhored and loved its immigrants. Some were well treated, others not. Immigrants continue to arrive today. does any of this seem familiar -- for i believe it was probably a similar headline over 100 years ago:

    Study finds immigrants commit less California crime

    SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Immigrants are far less likely than the average U.S.-born citizen to commit crime in California, the most populous state in the United States, according to a report issued late on Monday.

    link


    if you think the story ends there it does not. read the rest and see the stats. i don't think the stats of the yellow journalism source are accurate, nor, if accurate, actually represent anything substantial to support their claim. IOW, their stats are screeeeweeeey.


    long gone (apparently) are the days when immigrants came here because of the belief that america could/would make them a better life. now, it is as if they make it accross the literal and proverbial fence, then the magical dream is theirs automatically.

    this is not reality.
    BS according to the info in the link below...........
    It may be true there are less illegals in jail but it is because they are being protected by the sanctuary cities, not because they are committing less crime.
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    Police commanders may not want to discuss, much less respond to, the illegal-alien crisis, but its magnitude for law enforcement is startling. Some examples:

    • In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) target illegal aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens.

    • A confidential California Department of Justice study reported in 1995 that 60 percent of the 20,000-strong 18th Street Gang in southern California is illegal; police officers say the proportion is actually much greater. The bloody gang collaborates with the Mexican Mafia, the dominant force in California prisons, on complex drug-distribution schemes, extortion, and drive-by assassinations, and commits an assault or robbery every day in L.A. County. The gang has grown dramatically over the last two decades by recruiting recently arrived youngsters, most of them illegal, from Central America and Mexico.

    • The leadership of the Columbia Lil’ Cycos gang, which uses murder and racketeering to control the drug market around L.A.’s MacArthur Park, was about 60 percent illegal in 2002, says former assistant U.S. attorney Luis Li. Francisco Martinez, a Mexican Mafia member and an illegal alien, controlled the gang from prison, while serving time for felonious reentry following deportation.

    Good luck finding any reference to such facts in official crime analysis. The LAPD and the L.A. city attorney recently requested an injunction against drug trafficking in Hollywood, targeting the 18th Street Gang and the “non–gang members” who sell drugs in Hollywood for the gang. Those non–gang members are virtually all illegal Mexicans, smuggled into the country by a ring organized by 18th Street bigs. The Mexicans pay off their transportation debts to the gang by selling drugs; many soon realize how lucrative that line of work is and stay in the business.

    Cops and prosecutors universally know the immigration status of these non-gang “Hollywood dealers,” as the city attorney calls them, but the gang injunction is assiduously silent on the matter. And if a Hollywood officer were to arrest an illegal dealer (known on the street as a “border brother”) for his immigration status, or even notify the Immigration and Naturalization Service (since early 2003, absorbed into the new Department of Homeland Security), he would face severe discipline for violating Special Order 40, the city’s sanctuary policy.
    http://www.city-journal.org/html/14_...gal_alien.html
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    Why the Hell should I have to press “1” for ENGLISH?

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    The study did not differentiate between documented immigrants and illegal immigrants
    That's as far as I needed to read to know this article is propaganda.

    A nutcase will do nutty things.

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    The usual attempt to confuse the situation by hiding illegal aliens behind legal immigrants.

    And if that opening statement referred only to illegals, it would still be flatly false, for two reasons:

    1.) Illegals commit far more crimes than legal residents... starting with the crime of entering the country illegally, which 100% of them have committed. You can split hairs about "crimes" vs. "civil infractions", as though that distinction made any relevant difference. But the fact remains that illegals break far more laws than legal residents.

    2.) Illegals don't commit fewer crimes. They just get caught less. They are more efficient at hiding from the law, since their entire lifestyle in this country is designed around doing exactly that. For that reason, may go under false names and/or addresses, making them even harder to find when they break the law. Legal resident who break the law, are relatively easy to pick up.

    That's why there are fewer arrests, but far more outstanding warrants, for illegals than for legal residents.

    The author of the "report" you mentioned, is doing his best to obscure these facts and pretend the reverse is true. Small wonder that the source, once again, is Reuters.
    Last edited by Little-Acorn; 02-27-2008 at 12:33 PM.
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