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    Arrow McCain Refuses To Pander

    McCain Refuses To Pander


    By Stephen Dinan
    February 14, 2008

    EXIT POLL: Sen. John McCain shared a laugh with Reps. Roy Blunt (left), John A. Boehner (behind) and Adam H. Putnam (right) at the Capitol Hill Club yesterday, but the party is still far from unified behind his Republican presidential candidacy.

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    John McCain's campaign manager yesterday said the candidate will not pander for conservative support, even as his surrogates have made a second overture to see why chief competitor Mike Huckabee has not dropped out of the Republican presidential race.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/...437382070/1001

    Just for you rev.... now tell me again how ALL the conservatives are behind mclame....

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    or you could make up a bunch of overblown lies, and tear the party apart, what a great idea, lets give a bunch of socialists all three branches of government...
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    but the party is still far from unified behind his Republican presidential candidacy
    it's true....some of the more weakminded are still holding out......
    ...full immersion.....

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    The Rushbots need deprograming.
    People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.
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    He only panders to liberals.
    When I die I'm sure to go to heaven, cause I spent my time in hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    He only panders to liberals.



    Again that is not true. His record says opposite.
    People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp92vkXcC0w

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    McCain refuses to pander...? Pandering is the basis of his whole campaign.
    Fascism has come to America, wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross. His name is Trump.
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    He has definitely lost some support in Southwest Ohio by apologizing for Bill Cunningham's mentioning of Obama's middle name, Hussein, while introducing him in Ohio last week. It made him look like a poltical correctness junkie. Just when some of the local talk show hosts were starting to warm up to him. He isn't racking up any new points with Conservatives,that's for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Reverend View Post

    Again that is not true. His record says opposite.
    Oh really?

    McCain Kennedy?
    McCain Feingold?
    McCain Lieberman?
    McCain Daschle?
    The 'Gang of 14'?
    $50.00 an hour to pick lettuce?


    That's a broken record that doesn't belong in the White House.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 82Marine89 View Post
    Another Rushbot I see.

    http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?t=12425

    83% lifetime conservative rating (the same as Reagan)
    NEVER voted for a tax hike.
    NO earmarks.
    Was RIGHT about how the war should be handled.

    McCain is almost a photocopy of Reagan, reaching across the aisle (Reagan Democrats), voting record, military stance. The difference is that Reagan approved tax hikes and McCain has not. Reagan pushed a true amnesty bill McCain has not.

    I like FACT as compared to the Rush myths and lies
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Reverend View Post
    Another Rushbot I see.

    http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?t=12425

    83% lifetime conservative rating (the same as Reagan)
    NEVER voted for a tax hike.
    NO earmarks.
    Was RIGHT about how the war should be handled.

    McCain is almost a photocopy of Reagan, reaching across the aisle (Reagan Democrats), voting record, military stance. The difference is that Reagan approved tax hikes and McCain has not. Reagan pushed a true amnesty bill McCain has not.

    I like FACT as compared to the Rush myths and lies
    Rush is a blowhard and I don't listen to him. I have a job that keeps me from listening to the radio during working hours. How about defending the statement I made instead of hitting me with a puff piece? Defend them with the facts that you enjoy so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 82Marine89 View Post
    Rush is a blowhard and I don't listen to him. I have a job that keeps me from listening to the radio during working hours. How about defending the statement I made instead of hitting me with a puff piece? Defend them with the facts that you enjoy so much.
    OK First FACT is that McCain Kennedy is not an amnesty bill. I requires them to GO BACK HOME to apply for a visa or citizenship, as well as pay fines for breaking the law.

    Second fact is that McCain Feinngold has done NOTHING to stop free speech.
    More people are involved in donating to candidates and causes than before the legislation. Fact is NO conservative has called for its repeal.

    Third FACT Lieberman-McCain wouls not have affected businesses the way you claim.
    If passed, it would have capped 2010 CO2 emissions at the 2000 level. Residential and agricultural areas, as well as areas deemed "not feasible", would be exempt. The bill would have also established a scholarship at the National Academy of Sciences for those studying climatology.

    Fourth FACT the gang of fourteen,
    This group of seven Republicans and Seven Democrats (representing a full 14% of the US Senate, obviously) ultimately broke the logjam that had delayed confirmation of some of the most conservative nominees of President Bush. Because of McCain’s leadership, Chief Justice John Roberts and Associate Justice Samuel Alito won Supreme Court confirmation without filibuster from the Democrats. He also secured the previously blocked confirmations of Appellate Judges William Pryor, Janice Rogers Brown, Priscilla Owen, and Brett Kavanaugh, previously filibustered by Democrats. At the same time, McCain and his “gang” managed to protect the right to filibuster – an important tool with obvious value now that Republicans find themselves in the minority. McCain has never opposed a Republican nominee for the Supreme Court; unlike some of his prominent fellow Republicans, he actively supported the nomination of Judge Robert Bork. His disagreement with Senate Republican leader Bill Frist on the “Gang of Fourteen” issues involved questions of tactics, not the goal of securing a judiciary that honors the principles of strict construction..


    The rest is in th st "puff piece" which is fact unlike your fictional article.


    Even going on the premise that those were liberal acts (which they weren't)
    Fact it that he still has NEVER ONCE voted for a tax increase (unlike ALL the other candidates). Has a 83% lifetime conservative rating form the ACU.
    Has not requested ANY earmarks.


    Another fact is that if he is so bad on immigration why then has Arizona (one of the hardest hit by illegals) re-elected him over and over and most of the time by a very large majority.
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    I wonder why if no Conservative like McCain and will not vote for him, how he is winning the nomination and why the "real" conservatives are now out of the running. If there were that many "true" conservatives against McCain surely they could have defeated him by now.

    What happened to all those "true" conservative candidates?

    Or did the "true" conservatives choose not to vote for their conservative candidate and let the Dems purposely win?

    My thought is that most true conservatives (not neocons or brainwashed Rushbots) realize that McCain is both a conservative and the best way to beat the Democrats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Reverend View Post
    I wonder why if no Conservative like McCain and will not vote for him, how he is winning the nomination and why the "real" conservatives are now out of the running. If there were that many "true" conservatives against McCain surely they could have defeated him by now.

    What happened to all those "true" conservative candidates?

    Or did the "true" conservatives choose not to vote for their conservative candidate and let the Dems purposely win?

    My thought is that most true conservatives (not neocons or brainwashed Rushbots) realize that McCain is both a conservative and the best way to beat the Democrats.
    because the gop does winner take all and has open primaries......have you noticed the total votes cast by dems vs the total votes cast by pubs......doesn't look good for the pubs....

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Reverend View Post
    I wonder why if no Conservative like McCain and will not vote for him, how he is winning the nomination and why the "real" conservatives are now out of the running. If there were that many "true" conservatives against McCain surely they could have defeated him by now.

    What happened to all those "true" conservative candidates?

    Or did the "true" conservatives choose not to vote for their conservative candidate and let the Dems purposely win?

    My thought is that most true conservatives (not neocons or brainwashed Rushbots) realize that McCain is both a conservative and the best way to beat the Democrats.
    Aside from the fact that you look like one of nevadamedics friends he's put up to joining the board and doing your best you rah rah for mclame, you did however hit on something very important, and that's the apparent fact that "true" conservatives are numbering fewer and fewer every year. The moral attitude of this country is falling further and further into the toilet with the passing of every generation. The people taking the places of the great Americans that built this country are no longer reflecting their past, or appreciative of the blood, sweat and tears it took to build it. This country is turning liberal. juan mccain is a liberal. That's why he's picked up the votes of so many democrats and swing voters that don't like hussein or hitlery. He's just liberal enough for many democrats. That is how he's gotten to where he is. But, had the "true" conservative vote not been split between Romney, Huckabee, Hunter, Tancredo and Paul, mclame would be the one that's had to drop out, because the "true" conservative vote was split into so many different places, practically none of which mccain received. And now mccain realizes he needs the conservative vote to win the general election. Problem is, he doesn't have it, and as the article states, "he's not going to pander to the conservatives to get it." Well, get used to saying "President obama."
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