People seem to forget

[The Reverend]

That our current illegal immigration problem is Reagan's fault.
Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986

[manu1959]

The Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA), also Simpson-Mazzoli Act (Pub.L. 99-603, 100 Stat. 3359, signed by President Ronald Reagan on November 6, 1986) is an Act of Congress which reformed United States immigration law. The Act made it illegal to knowingly hire or recruit undocumented immigrants (immigrants who do not possess lawful work authorization), required employers to attest to their employees' immigration status, and granted amnesty to undocumented immigrants who entered the United States before January 1, 1982 and had resided there continuously.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigra...ol_Act_of_1986

tell me of enforcement of this law over the past 20 years.....

[The Reverend]

That was not all it did

Many people were concerned that employer sanctions would lead to discrimination against legal immigrants or U.S. citizens who appeared foreign. To prevent such discrimination, the IRCA imposed penalties on employers who discriminated in this manner. The new employer sanctions, however, could cause great hardships for illegal immigrants who had been living and working in the United States for many years. The IRCA provided a program for certain illegal immigrants who had lived in the United States since at least January 1, 1982, to apply to become legal residents with the right to work. A different program allowed seasonal agricultural workers to apply for legal residency. Newly legal residents could eventually become citizens.

Nonagricultural workers had to prove they had a continuous physical presence in the United States, except for brief, casual, and innocent travel abroad. The Immigration and Nationalization Service (INS) required advance permission for any travel abroad, or the immigrant would be ineligible for the legalization program. Several lawsuits contested this advance-permission regulation. The courts invalidated the regulation twelve days before the deadline to file applications for legal resident status. Many immigrants, however, had not been allowed to file applications for legalization, or had not tried to file because they had been told their travel disqualified them from the program.

http://www.answers.com/topic/immigra...86?cat=biz-fin

It was amnesty, as much as McCain-Kennedy was amnesty.

[Dilloduck]

That was not all it did

http://www.answers.com/topic/immigra...86?cat=biz-fin

It was amnesty, as much as McCain-Kennedy was amnesty.

And your point is ?

[avatar4321]

That was not all it did

http://www.answers.com/topic/immigra...86?cat=biz-fin

It was amnesty, as much as McCain-Kennedy was amnesty.

And it didn't work then. so why expect different now?

[The Reverend]

And it didn't work then. so why expect different now?

My post about McCain-Kennedy was sarcasm.

McCain Kennedy actually enacted better enforcement.

[Dilloduck]

My post about McCain-Kennedy was sarcasm.

McCain Kennedy actually enacted better enforcement.

oh ya---it's really working great !!!!!

[The Reverend]

oh ya---it's really working great !!!!!

McCain-Kennedy was never passed, but had it passed it would have enected way better enforcement then we have now.

[Dilloduck]

McCain-Kennedy was never passed, but had it passed it would have enected way better enforcement then we have now.

We ALREADY have laws we don't enforce---who are you kidding ??

[The Reverend]

We ALREADY have laws we don't enforce---who are you kidding ??

The laws currently on the books are confusing, bad, and a lot of times not enforcable.

[Dilloduck]

The laws currently on the books are confusing, bad, and a lot of times not enforcable.

To claim that a plan that was never tried would have worked better than what we already have is pushing it a bit don't you think. There were other parts of the bill that amounted to nothing less than amnesty and only extreme outrage by Americans stopped it.

[jimnyc]

That our current illegal immigration problem is Reagan's fault.
Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986

Um, no, the current illegal immigration problem is the fault of those who thumb their nose at the law and sneak into our country illegally. You don't absolve those who commit crimes and look for ways to excuse their crimes by looking for weaknesses in our laws. No matter how you slice it, they are breaking the law and every single one of them should be punished. Blaming past legislation or excusing the crimes of illegals will not solve our problem.

[Classact]

We have the US Chamber of Commerce supporting cheap labor... the Democratic Party frothing at the mouth for a new voting block greater than the blacks faithfully loyal and the press backing them up with brainwashing... People are fed political correctness as the Chamber of Commerce cleans up with cheap labor while keeping the non college wages extremely low... the left and the right are fighting the people and only screaming at the top of your lungs will stop congress from erasing the southern border.

The laws on the books are all we need to send them packing back to Mexico but there is no one on the right to fight the left, the ACLU and the press... enforce the law or make state laws to make them unwelcome and they will go home....

[JohnDoe]

Um, no, the current illegal immigration problem is the fault of those who thumb their nose at the law and sneak into our country illegally. You don't absolve those who commit crimes and look for ways to excuse their crimes by looking for weaknesses in our laws. No matter how you slice it, they are breaking the law and every single one of them should be punished. Blaming past legislation or excusing the crimes of illegals will not solve our problem.

so is amnesty for committing crimes only given to rich white men, like Scooter Libby who was convicted of three different felonies?



j/k u so don't git mean with me good lookin'!!!!! lollolllol

jd

[The Reverend]

To claim that a plan that was never tried would have worked better than what we already have is pushing it a bit don't you think. There were other parts of the bill that amounted to nothing less than amnesty and only extreme outrage by Americans stopped it.

No it is not pushing it. I read the bill and what it proposed was a lot clearer and easier to enforce then what we have now.

The other parts were not amnesty, but you are right people saw it as that.