How do you negotiate

[The Reverend]

with religious extremists that kill and blow themselves up in the name of Allah, God or whomever?

How can you negotiate with people that walk into a marketplace and then proceed to blow themselves up taking lots of innocent civilians with them?

How can you negotiate with people that strap bombs to children, themselves and others?

How can you negotiate with people celebrate and cheer when innocent people are killed?

Please someone explain to me just how you negotiate with this.

IMO you can't, the same way you can negotiate with people that protest soldiers funerals, blow abortion clinics up, destroy property in the name of the environment.

Some people cannot be reasoned with.

[Kathianne]

with religious extremists that kill and blow themselves up in the name of Allah, God or whomever?

How can you negotiate with people that walk into a marketplace and then proceed to blow themselves up taking lots of innocent civilians with them?

How can you negotiate with people that strap bombs to children, themselves and others?

How can you negotiate with people celebrate and cheer when innocent people are killed?

Please someone explain to me just how you negotiate with this.

IMO you can't, the same way you can negotiate with people that protest soldiers funerals, blow abortion clinics up, destroy property in the name of the environment.

Some people cannot be reasoned with.

Agreed and it's past time to pretend that anyone can. They should know that their actions have consequences and that I thought was the point of Bush's doctrine so long ago. It's unrecognizable under Rice.

[FSUK]

I agree, its is next to impossible to negotiate with these brutal sick terrorists. However, the root causes of terrorism need to be examined. Once this is done, then there will be no need to negotiate with these criminals.

[actsnoblemartin]

ok. lets....

Stupid morons become imams then convince other stupid morons to commit to jihad or what the imams are to big of blanks to do

The simple mans guide to radical jihad

I agree, its is next to impossible to negotiate with these brutal sick terrorists. However, the root causes of terrorism need to be examined. Once this is done, then there will be no need to negotiate with these criminals.

[FSUK]

ok. lets....

Stupid morons become imams then convince other stupid morons to commit to jihad or what the imams are to big of blanks to do

The simple mans guide to radical jihad

You really need to educate your self? I am not a muslim, but again, you seem to one of those people that think sick muslims terrorists represent the whole faith of islam. The IRA in ireland, were catholics. Does that mean all catholics are holy warriors or terrorists.

[actsnoblemartin]

this is not about ireland.

please do try to stick on topic.

I never said all muslims were anything, so please dont assume or put words in my mouth, thank you very much. I am more then capable of being my own spokesman thank you

You really need to educate your self? I am not a muslim, but again, you seem to one of those people that think sick muslims terrorists represent the whole faith of islam. The IRA in ireland, were catholics. Does that mean all catholics are holy warriors or terrorists.

[Kathianne]

I agree, its is next to impossible to negotiate with these brutal sick terrorists. However, the root causes of terrorism need to be examined. Once this is done, then there will be no need to negotiate with these criminals.

The root cause from the Palestinian side is the existence of Israel. I don't think negotiation with that is possible?

[FSUK]

The root cause from the Palestinian side is the existence of Israel. I don't think negotiation with that is possible?

What a ridiculous statement, im sure these extremists didnt wake up one day and say '' lets hate israel''. Their land has been illegally occupied, thus this cycle of violence will never stop. Unless, the israelis pull out from all palestinian land.

I am not justifying the terrible and criminal attacks by these islamic terrorists, they should be eliminated. However, they just want their land back. Dialogue is needed, not violence.

[Kathianne]

What a ridiculous statement, im sure these extremists didnt wake up one day and say '' lets hate israel''. Their land has been illegally occupied, thus this cycle of violence will never stop. Unless, the israelis pull out from all palestinian land.

I am not justifying the terrible and criminal attacks by these islamic terrorists, they should be eliminated. However, they just want their land back. Dialogue is needed, not violence.

Again, the 'root cause' of the violence has been those unwilling to negotiate, that has not been Israel. You are delusional.

[OCA]

The root cause from the Palestinian side is the existence of Israel. I don't think negotiation with that is possible?

No, the root cause is that they were given no choice but to pack up and leave their ancestral lands when Israel was created, all because the U.N. felt sorry for the Holocaust.

You act as if the Palestinians have no legitimate beef, surely you cannot believe that.

Modern day Israel is no better or different than South Africa was under apartheid.

[manu1959]

No, the root cause is that they were given no choice but to pack up and leave their ancestral lands when Israel was created, all because the U.N. felt sorry for the Holocaust.

You act as if the Palestinians have no legitimate beef, surely you cannot believe that.

Modern day Israel is no better or different than South Africa was under apartheid.

there are agreeved people in every nation in the world.....their greevance does not give them the right to blow up busses, pizza parlours or kill students....and if they belive they have that right then they should expect a symetrical if not greater response....

[truthmatters]

Here is what you do.

You give them no fuel to convince the young and poor people in thier society that you need to be a target of such tactics. Many of these people are in such poverty that they will do this in exchange for a months supply of food for their family. Just like here it is not the sons and daughters of the wealthy in their society who are being groomed to do these tasks.

You dont invade the countries they populate on a pack of lies and then NEVER leave. You dont send pallets of large bills to their country so that the corporations you send to "rebuild" can be bribed with them. You dont blow up and Burn their children. You dont send their country into a hellish spiral of poverty.

What you do do is leave them the hell alone and dont do business with the people who support these idiots. That means you dont buy their oil. You go to south America and buy their oil until you can reduce the supply you need.

If these countries which harbor the idiots who convience their young and poor to kill themselves to hurt us had no money or power then they could not do much conviencing. Lets just remember that 16 of the 19 hyjackers were Saudi Arabian. They were raised and taught in a country which we do huge amounts of business with. If saudi Arabia was reduced back to the date farm it used to be before they discovered Oil then they would be incapable of harming anyone. Let China buy their oil and become their target while we invest in South America which has no muslims.

Think about it for awhile.

If you think the Muslim religion is the base of the problem then you should not want to give any muslim country a penny of our dollars let alone spend trillions of dollars Protecting Iraq from its self.

Bush already said we won this war Years ago on that aircraft carrier. An occupation can end any time you want it to without "losing" anything.

Lets end the occupation and tell the Iraqis they better get their shit together and stand on their own.

[actsnoblemartin]

you may not have a lot of threads, but let me tell you, you are an excellent poster, whom i admire

with religious extremists that kill and blow themselves up in the name of Allah, God or whomever?

How can you negotiate with people that walk into a marketplace and then proceed to blow themselves up taking lots of innocent civilians with them?

How can you negotiate with people that strap bombs to children, themselves and others?

How can you negotiate with people celebrate and cheer when innocent people are killed?

Please someone explain to me just how you negotiate with this.

IMO you can't, the same way you can negotiate with people that protest soldiers funerals, blow abortion clinics up, destroy property in the name of the environment.

Some people cannot be reasoned with.

[OCA]

with religious extremists that kill and blow themselves up in the name of Allah, God or whomever?

How can you negotiate with people that walk into a marketplace and then proceed to blow themselves up taking lots of innocent civilians with them?

How can you negotiate with people that strap bombs to children, themselves and others?

How can you negotiate with people celebrate and cheer when innocent people are killed?

Please someone explain to me just how you negotiate with this.

IMO you can't, the same way you can negotiate with people that protest soldiers funerals, blow abortion clinics up, destroy property in the name of the environment.

Some people cannot be reasoned with.

I have been saying this same thing for years now, hell even some local Muslims I know around here that I share music with say that you can't, they say that you are going to have to kill every man, woman and child associated with the extremists, IOW you have to remove the tree by its roots.

Oh and also you have to get into the mud pit with them, this higher road no torture crap will get us killed.

[DragonStryk72]

with religious extremists that kill and blow themselves up in the name of Allah, God or whomever?

How can you negotiate with people that walk into a marketplace and then proceed to blow themselves up taking lots of innocent civilians with them?

How can you negotiate with people that strap bombs to children, themselves and others?

How can you negotiate with people celebrate and cheer when innocent people are killed?

Please someone explain to me just how you negotiate with this.

IMO you can't, the same way you can negotiate with people that protest soldiers funerals, blow abortion clinics up, destroy property in the name of the environment.

Some people cannot be reasoned with.

"Talk softly, and carry a big stick"

Honestly, you can't negotiate with those kinds of people. Negotiation requires reason, something that a person who would specifically order the deaths of innocent people just to prove a point, quite obviously lack.

Fighting is terrible, war is terrible, but if you must fight, if you must war, then fight & war to win, in the most effective manner possible.