How do you negotiate

[truthmatters]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine#The_20th_century


Please people use reality to discuss these matters.


The 20th century

Palestine in British map 1924 the map now in the National Library of ScotlandIn European usage up to World War I, "Palestine" was used informally for a region that extended in the north-south direction typically from Raphia (south-east of Gaza) to the Litani River (now in Lebanon). The western boundary was the sea, and the eastern boundary was the poorly-defined place where the Syrian desert began. In various European sources, the eastern boundary was placed anywhere from the Jordan River to slightly east of Amman. The Negev Desert was not included.[104]

Under the Sykes-Picot Agreement of 1916, it was envisioned that most of Palestine, when freed from Ottoman control, would become an international zone not under direct French or British colonial control. Shortly thereafter, British foreign minister Arthur Balfour issued the Balfour Declaration of 1917, which laid plans for a Jewish homeland to be established in Palestine eventually.

[manu1959]

who took whos land?

the UN drew a line around the land that jews and arabs were living in and called it israel..... a few days later the arabs started atacking israel ....israel has been defending itself every since .... the arabs keep attacking and loosing land .... now they are claiming foul and want the land back they lost .... israel then gives some of it back and they keep attacking them .... anyone know the fabel of the frog and the scorpion ....

[actsnoblemartin]

can you give us a link to that fabel, ive never heard of it

the UN drew a line around the land that jews and arabs were living in and called it israel..... a few days later the arabs started atacking israel ....israel has been defending itself every since .... the arabs keep attacking and loosing land .... now they are claiming foul and want the land back they lost .... israel then gives some of it back and they keep attacking them .... anyone know the fabel of the frog and the scorpion ....

[actsnoblemartin]

and what happened, the palestinians, where offered deal or no deal

and they chose the latter, and they have lost land, because of war after war, they have started to kill all the jews, and push them into the sea

they werent talking about swimming when they said push them into the sea

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine#The_20th_century


Please people use reality to discuss these matters.


The 20th century

Palestine in British map 1924 the map now in the National Library of ScotlandIn European usage up to World War I, "Palestine" was used informally for a region that extended in the north-south direction typically from Raphia (south-east of Gaza) to the Litani River (now in Lebanon). The western boundary was the sea, and the eastern boundary was the poorly-defined place where the Syrian desert began. In various European sources, the eastern boundary was placed anywhere from the Jordan River to slightly east of Amman. The Negev Desert was not included.[104]

Under the Sykes-Picot Agreement of 1916, it was envisioned that most of Palestine, when freed from Ottoman control, would become an international zone not under direct French or British colonial control. Shortly thereafter, British foreign minister Arthur Balfour issued the Balfour Declaration of 1917, which laid plans for a Jewish homeland to be established in Palestine eventually.

[manu1959]

can you give us a link to that fabel, ive never heard of it

your google button busted....

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...d+the+scorpion

[truthmatters]

If the UN told you your state would now be half Muslim land would you fight the Muslims who moved in to claim that land?

[actsnoblemartin]

you may not have a lot of threads, but let me tell you, you are an excellent poster, whom i admire

with religious extremists that kill and blow themselves up in the name of Allah, God or whomever?

How can you negotiate with people that walk into a marketplace and then proceed to blow themselves up taking lots of innocent civilians with them?

How can you negotiate with people that strap bombs to children, themselves and others?

How can you negotiate with people celebrate and cheer when innocent people are killed?

Please someone explain to me just how you negotiate with this.

IMO you can't, the same way you can negotiate with people that protest soldiers funerals, blow abortion clinics up, destroy property in the name of the environment.

Some people cannot be reasoned with.

[actsnoblemartin]

lazy



I lost my staples button

your google button busted....

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...d+the+scorpion

[actsnoblemartin]

if the muslims, said.. were moving in 6 million muslims into israel.

#1 they cant israel is a sovereign nation.

#2 In 1947, britain handed it over to the u.n., so only at the time, could the u.n. do what you wanted to do, and actually did. It actually gave more land to the pales

#3 the muslims have no real claim on it, the land belonged to the jews and was stolen by the romans. Just because a few nomadic arab traders passed through it, doesnt mean they have any special rights to it.

#4 even if you give every inch of israel back to pales, they will kill every christian left there, and then go after europe, with the most sincerest respect, this is about jews being there, in 1929, the riots were about israel, they were about, how dare jews be here at all.

If the UN told you your state would now be half Muslim land would you fight the Muslims who moved in to claim that land?

[truthmatters]

http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1&sect...d=8&m=3&y=2008

It seems the Saudi Arabian King is odering the the SA gov to pay to rebuild the Palistinian homes destroyed by Isreal.

[truthmatters]

if the muslims, said.. were moving in 6 million muslims into israel.

#1 they cant israel is a sovereign nation.

#2 In 1947, britain handed it over to the u.n., so only at the time, could the u.n. do what you wanted to do, and actually did. It actually gave more land to the pales

#3 the muslims have no real claim on it, the land belonged to the jews and was stolen by the romans. Just because a few nomadic arab traders passed through it, doesnt mean they have any special rights to it.

#4 even if you give every inch of israel back to pales, they will kill every christian left there, and then go after europe, with the most sincerest respect, this is about jews being there, in 1929, the riots were about israel, they were about, how dare jews be here at all.

Under your train of thought we need to give the US back to the Indians.

[actsnoblemartin]

I almost forgot, if israel caved into to right of return requests, israel would cease to exist, because 6 million arabs, would quickly outgrow the jews in population, hence another muslim country.

If the UN told you your state would now be half Muslim land would you fight the Muslims who moved in to claim that land?

[manu1959]

If the UN told you your state would now be half Muslim land would you fight the Muslims who moved in to claim that land?

the was no state.....there was land.....it was already occupied by jews and arabs.....the un recognized the land as israel....as did prety much the rest of the world....except the arabs.....the arabs lost.....so they attacked israel...and lost again....then lost land...the arabs have been losing for 60 years.....you know what stop attacking the israelis and you will stop losing....

[actsnoblemartin]

I dont remember saying that, and leave my train alone

Under your train of thought we need to give the US back to the Indians.

[actsnoblemartin]

thank you manu, you can articulate words, better then i can mate

the was no state.....there was land.....it was already occupied by jews and arabs.....the un recognized the land as israel....as did prety much the rest of the world....except the arabs.....the arabs lost.....so they attacked israel...and lost again....then lost land...the arabs have been losing for 60 years.....you know what stop attacking the israelis and you will stop losing....