Pentagon report on AQ ties to Sadam

[truthmatters]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20...latchy/2875005

There were none guys and this is final

[Nukeman]

OHHHH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUSH DID IT!!!!!!!!!!!

[FSUK]

The ironic thing is that the Bush lies led to Iraq becoming swamped with AQ.

[jimnyc]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20...latchy/2875005

There were none guys and this is final

Yeah, and? That does nothing to negate the myriad of reasons given for the invasion. I don't recall Al Qaeda being on top of the list.

The ironic thing is that the Bush lies led to Iraq becoming swamped with AQ.

The only lies are from those claiming there were lies.

[truthmatters]

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/23/wa...in&oref=slogin


http://www.publicintegrity.org/WarCa...e/Default.aspx



http://www.publicintegrity.org/WarCa...rCardChart.jpg

This last chart will make it very easy for you to see and count the false statements by this admin.

[Dilloduck]

Who cares ?

[jimnyc]

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/23/wa...in&oref=slogin


http://www.publicintegrity.org/WarCa...e/Default.aspx

As usual, cannot think for yourself and must rely on links. The FACT is that the top reasons to invade Iraq DID NOT include Al Qaeda being there or connections to them. But I guess to expect a dipshit like you to remember something a few years back is too much to ask.

[bullypulpit]

Yeah, and? That does nothing to negate the myriad of reasons given for the invasion. I don't recall Al Qaeda being on top of the list.

Indeed. If I recall correctly, the reason for the invasion of Iraq was Saddam's reconstituted programs for <b>WMD</b> production. As we all now know, that reason was false.

The only lies are from those claiming there were lies.

As for the Bush administration lies, 935 of 'em, let me refer you <a href=http://www.publicintegrity.org/WarCard/Default.aspx?source=home&context=overview&id=945>H ERE</a>. Documented and on public record...The prevarication purveyed by Bush and his administration in the run up to the war in Iraq, including attempts to link Saddam to Al Qaeda.

<blockquote>...before the war and since, Bush and his aides made rhetorical links that now appear to have been leaps:

* Vice President Dick Cheney told National Public Radio in January that there was "overwhelming evidence" of a relationship between Saddam and al-Qaida. Among the evidence he cited was Iraq's harboring of Abdul Rahman Yasin, a suspect in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.

Cheney didn't mention that Iraq had offered to turn over Yasin to the FBI in 1998, in return for a U.S. statement acknowledging that Iraq had no role in that attack. The Clinton administration refused the offer, because it was unwilling to reward Iraq for returning a fugitive.

* Administration officials reported that Farouk Hijazi, a top Iraqi intelligence officer, had met with bin Laden in Kandahar, Afghanistan, in 1998 and offered him safe haven in Iraq.

They left out the rest of the story, however. Bin Laden said he'd consider the offer, U.S. intelligence officials said. But according to a report later made available to the CIA, the al-Qaida leader told an aide afterward that he had no intention of accepting Saddam's offer because "if we go there, it would be his agenda, not ours."

* The administration tied Saddam to a terrorism network run by Palestinian Abu Musab al Zarqawi. That network may be behind the latest violence in Iraq, which killed at least 143 people Tuesday.

But U.S. officials say the evidence that Zarqawi had close operational ties to al-Qaida appears increasingly doubtful.

Asked for Cheney's views on Iraq and terrorism, vice presidential spokesman Kevin Kellems referred Knight Ridder to the vice president's television interviews Tuesday.

Cheney, in an interview with CNN, said Zarqawi ran an "al-Qaida-affiliated" group. He cited an intercepted letter that Zarqawi is believed to have written to al-Qaida leaders, and a White House official who spoke only on the condition of anonymity said the CIA has described Zarqawi as an al-Qaida "associate."

But U.S. officials say the Zarqawi letter contained a plea for help that al-Qaida rebuffed. Linguistic analysis of the letter indicates it was written from one equal to another, not from a subordinate to a superior, suggesting that Zarqawi considered himself an independent operator and not a part of bin Laden's organization.

* Iraqi defectors alleged that Saddam's regime was helping to train Iraqi and non-Iraqi Arab terrorists at a site called Salman Pak, south of Baghdad. The allegation made it into a September 2002 white paper that the White House issued.

The U.S. military has found no evidence of such a facility.

* The allegation that Sept. 11 hijacker Mohamed Atta met in Prague, Czech Republic, with an Iraqi intelligence officer now is contradicted by FBI evidence that Atta was taking flight training in Florida at the time. The Iraqi, Ahmed Khalil Ibrahim Samir al Ani, is now in U.S. custody and has told interrogators he never met Atta.

CIA Director George Tenet told the Senate Intelligence Committee last month that there's no evidence to support the allegation.

* Bush, Cheney and Secretary of State Colin Powell made much of occasional contacts between Saddam's regime and al-Qaida, dating to the early 1990s when bin Laden was based in the Sudan. But intelligence indicates that nothing ever came of the contacts.

" Were there meetings? Yes, of course there were meetings. But what resulted? Nothing," said one senior U.S. official.

The charges that Saddam was in league with bin Laden, and carefully worded hints that he might even have played a role in the Sept. 11 attacks, may have done more to marshal public and political support for a pre-emptive invasion of Iraq than the claims that Iraq still had chemical and biological weapons and was working to get nuclear ones. - <a href=http://www.mcclatchydc.com/staff/john_walcott/story/10158.html>McClatchy, 3/2/04</a></blockquote>

[Dilloduck]

Indeed. If I recall correctly, the reason for the invasion of Iraq was Saddam's reconstituted programs for <b>WMD</b> production. As we all now know, that reason was false.



As for the rest of the lies, let me refer you <a href=http://www.publicintegrity.org/WarCard/Default.aspx?source=home&context=overview&id=945>H ERE</a>. Documented and on public record...The prevarication purveyed by Bush and his administration in the run up to the war in Iraq, including attempts to link Saddam to Al Qaeda.

<blockquote>...before the war and since, Bush and his aides made rhetorical links that now appear to have been leaps:

* Vice President Dick Cheney told National Public Radio in January that there was "overwhelming evidence" of a relationship between Saddam and al-Qaida. Among the evidence he cited was Iraq's harboring of Abdul Rahman Yasin, a suspect in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.

Cheney didn't mention that Iraq had offered to turn over Yasin to the FBI in 1998, in return for a U.S. statement acknowledging that Iraq had no role in that attack. The Clinton administration refused the offer, because it was unwilling to reward Iraq for returning a fugitive.

* Administration officials reported that Farouk Hijazi, a top Iraqi intelligence officer, had met with bin Laden in Kandahar, Afghanistan, in 1998 and offered him safe haven in Iraq.

They left out the rest of the story, however. Bin Laden said he'd consider the offer, U.S. intelligence officials said. But according to a report later made available to the CIA, the al-Qaida leader told an aide afterward that he had no intention of accepting Saddam's offer because "if we go there, it would be his agenda, not ours."

* The administration tied Saddam to a terrorism network run by Palestinian Abu Musab al Zarqawi. That network may be behind the latest violence in Iraq, which killed at least 143 people Tuesday.

But U.S. officials say the evidence that Zarqawi had close operational ties to al-Qaida appears increasingly doubtful.

Asked for Cheney's views on Iraq and terrorism, vice presidential spokesman Kevin Kellems referred Knight Ridder to the vice president's television interviews Tuesday.

Cheney, in an interview with CNN, said Zarqawi ran an "al-Qaida-affiliated" group. He cited an intercepted letter that Zarqawi is believed to have written to al-Qaida leaders, and a White House official who spoke only on the condition of anonymity said the CIA has described Zarqawi as an al-Qaida "associate."

But U.S. officials say the Zarqawi letter contained a plea for help that al-Qaida rebuffed. Linguistic analysis of the letter indicates it was written from one equal to another, not from a subordinate to a superior, suggesting that Zarqawi considered himself an independent operator and not a part of bin Laden's organization.

* Iraqi defectors alleged that Saddam's regime was helping to train Iraqi and non-Iraqi Arab terrorists at a site called Salman Pak, south of Baghdad. The allegation made it into a September 2002 white paper that the White House issued.

The U.S. military has found no evidence of such a facility.

* The allegation that Sept. 11 hijacker Mohamed Atta met in Prague, Czech Republic, with an Iraqi intelligence officer now is contradicted by FBI evidence that Atta was taking flight training in Florida at the time. The Iraqi, Ahmed Khalil Ibrahim Samir al Ani, is now in U.S. custody and has told interrogators he never met Atta.

CIA Director George Tenet told the Senate Intelligence Committee last month that there's no evidence to support the allegation.

* Bush, Cheney and Secretary of State Colin Powell made much of occasional contacts between Saddam's regime and al-Qaida, dating to the early 1990s when bin Laden was based in the Sudan. But intelligence indicates that nothing ever came of the contacts.

" Were there meetings? Yes, of course there were meetings. But what resulted? Nothing," said one senior U.S. official.

The charges that Saddam was in league with bin Laden, and carefully worded hints that he might even have played a role in the Sept. 11 attacks, may have done more to marshal public and political support for a pre-emptive invasion of Iraq than the claims that Iraq still had chemical and biological weapons and was working to get nuclear ones. - <a href=http://www.mcclatchydc.com/staff/john_walcott/story/10158.html>McClatchy, 3/2/04</a></blockquote>

Who cares ?

[jimnyc]

Indeed. If I recall correctly, the reason for the invasion of Iraq was Saddam's reconstituted programs for WMD production. As we all now know, that reason was false.

As for the Bush administration lies, 935 of 'em, let me refer you HERE. Documented and on public record...The prevarication purveyed by Bush and his administration in the run up to the war in Iraq, including attempts to link Saddam to Al Qaeda.

Yes, it appears the WMD intel turned out to be incorrect, which is far different that claiming it was a lie. As for your list, how come it doesn't contain the likely hundreds of times that Democrats made similar statements, many of absolute certainty, many from members of the Senate Intelligence Committee and just as many from prominent Democrats?

[DragonStryk72]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20...latchy/2875005

There were none guys and this is final

Okay, but prety much everyone but the most stubborn and hard-headed bush supporter already pretty much knew this years ago. Well, as it is, with the reports forming up, and his time in office coming to a close, he may be getting ready to have to actually answer for all of this.