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    I'll pray for you and your sickness, TM!
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    In July 2002, Rumsfeld had a one-word answer for reporters who asked whether Iraq had relationships with Al Qaeda terrorists: "Sure." In fact, an assessment issued that same month by the Defense Intelligence Agency (and confirmed weeks later by CIA Director Tenet) found an absence of "compelling evidence demonstrating direct cooperation between the government of Iraq and Al Qaeda." What's more, an earlier DIA assessment said that "the nature of the regime's relationship with Al Qaeda is unclear."



    http://www.publicintegrity.org/WarCa...e/Default.aspx

    Its just sad to see Americans care more about party than country.

    Your link doesn't work. Your NYT articles doesn't equate their critiques as fact - I'm assuming you posted the article to give this group some form of legitimacy AND the first article indicates involvement with just about every other muslim terrorist group in the region was being used to his benefit, among other things.

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    http://www.publicintegrity.org/WarCa...tements&id=946

    Here is the corrected link.

    Rummy said this on this date. It was not based in any facts that he was given by the intell people.

    Maybe you like to be lied to but most Americans dont and they dont like to see their children, wifes , husbands , brothers , sisters, cousins and nephews die for the lies of politicains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    In July 2002, Rumsfeld had a one-word answer for reporters who asked whether Iraq had relationships with Al Qaeda terrorists: "Sure." In fact, an assessment issued that same month by the Defense Intelligence Agency (and confirmed weeks later by CIA Director Tenet) found an absence of "compelling evidence demonstrating direct cooperation between the government of Iraq and Al Qaeda." What's more, an earlier DIA assessment said that "the nature of the regime's relationship with Al Qaeda is unclear."



    http://www.publicintegrity.org/WarCa...e/Default.aspx

    Its just sad to see Americans care more about party than country.
    It's sad to see someone whose whole goal on life is trying to prove Jim wrong.

    A nutcase will do nutty things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    It's sad to see someone whose whole goal on life is trying to prove Jim wrong.
    yah, THAT'S IT! you have figured it out! She comes here every day just to prove Jim wrong!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    http://www.publicintegrity.org/WarCa...tements&id=946

    Here is the corrected link.

    Rummy said this on this date. It was not based in any facts that he was given by the intell people.

    Maybe you like to be lied to but most Americans dont and they dont like to see their children, wifes , husbands , brothers , sisters, cousins and nephews die for the lies of politicains.

    You posted a source saying this site is a critique of presented information. A critique is an assertion of an opinion, not fact.

    And stop with the emotional drivel. Presenting an emotional assumption is not fact either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe View Post
    yah, THAT'S IT! you have figured it out! She comes here every day just to prove Jim wrong!!!!

    NO! she actually comes here every day to say



    BUSH DID IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHH EVERYBODY RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe View Post
    yah, THAT'S IT! you have figured it out! She comes here every day just to prove Jim wrong!!!!

    oh ya--i forgot--she's also trying to enlighten us !

    A nutcase will do nutty things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe View Post
    yah, THAT'S IT! you have figured it out! She comes here every day just to prove Jim wrong!!!!

    Rah, rah. Where do I get my pom-poms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20...latchy/2875005

    There were none guys and this is final
    Okay, but prety much everyone but the most stubborn and hard-headed bush supporter already pretty much knew this years ago. Well, as it is, with the reports forming up, and his time in office coming to a close, he may be getting ready to have to actually answer for all of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Said1 View Post
    You posted a source saying this site is a critique of presented information. A critique is an assertion of an opinion, not fact.

    And stop with the emotional drivel. Presenting an emotional assumption is not fact either.
    That site is a compelation of the statements the admin made in the lead up to the war. It then compares them to the known intell of the time. IT is facts not opinion.

    Your just refusing to face the truth.

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    The fact is, we had every right to invade Iraq for no other reason except that they broke the cease-fire agreement from the First Gulf War in 1991. Everything else is just gravy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    That site is a compelation of the statements the admin made in the lead up to the war. It then compares them to the known intell of the time. IT is facts not opinion.

    Your just refusing to face the truth.
    What truth? What is the truth as I believe it to be? Quote it or at least paraphrase what you KNOW I've said to be the truth?

    Disregarding asymmetrical propaganda has little to do with what I believe.
    Last edited by Said1; 03-11-2008 at 11:00 AM.

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    These are public quotes.

    They are then contrasted by the known intell of the time.

    The fact that you are unable to accept this is very telling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5stringJeff View Post
    The fact is, we had every right to invade Iraq for no other reason except that they broke the cease-fire agreement from the First Gulf War in 1991. Everything else is just gravy.
    That's simply not true in my opinion.... here is why:

    Constitutionally we do not invade or go to war with anyone unless we are in an imminant threat and delcare war with 2/3's of the senate and house voting yea. No executive should EVER be allowed to make the decision to go to war....without the declaration of war by Congress. Sure we have tried to dance around this for decades.....it does NOT in anyway make it constitutional or right.

    AND imo president Bush's doctine of going to war with countries that are not an imminent threat is the worst policy any president has put on to us, on to our soldiers and our soldier's families. We should not force a soldier to die for us for any other reason than an imminent threat.

    And the cease fire agreement was between Kuwait and Iraq......NO WHERE on this agreement was the USA a signatory.

    Thirdly, the UN who monitored the cease fire agreement between Saddam and Kuwait was against the retribution that the USA chose to take unilaterally.



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