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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    to bring the message of Christ to 100% of the world.
    yes they want to do that. They don't want to conquer and rule the world as islam does. Big difference.
    When I die I'm sure to go to heaven, cause I spent my time in hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    yes they want to do that. They don't want to conquer and rule the world as islam does. Big difference.
    There's no denying that people that called themselves Christian have at times tried to convert nations and people via conquest and violence. Europe used to be the Christian version of a caliphate. Rome still is.

    A nutcase will do nutty things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    so he waited for his "profit margin"?
    yes, if you read the history, he began his attacks in earnest after he raided caravans, amassed some wealth/profit and followers.

    hence why i call him a profit......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    There's no denying that people that called themselves Christian have at times tried to convert nations and people via conquest and violence. Europe used to be the Christian version of a caliphate. Rome still is.
    research al-mahdi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    research al-mahdi
    done it already----it doesn't change any of Christian history

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    done it already----it doesn't change any of Christian history
    so you saying that christian beliefs include an "al-mahdi?" what did your research tell of you of the al-mahdi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    so you saying that christian beliefs include an "al-mahdi?" what did your research tell of you of the al-mahdi?
    They call it the second coming of Christ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    There's no denying that people that called themselves Christian have at times tried to convert nations and people via conquest and violence. Europe used to be the Christian version of a caliphate. Rome still is.
    What was done hundreds of years ago does not apply to today. Please give me an example of the catholic church waging a war of conquest in the last two hundred years. Christianity is about spreading the word of christ and allowing people to chose. islam is about submission. islam means to submit in arabic.

    Rome is a city in Italy. Not a caliphate.

    The sunni belief is that the world needs to be conquered in order for heaven to be brought to earth and everything changed to a perfect world. The shites believe the world needs to be almost completely destroyed before the 12th imam returns and brings heaven to earth. Both want to first establish a middle east caliphate and expand from there.

    I do get tired of the old christians did it in the middle ages routine I keep hearing. That has absolutely nothing to do with whats going on today. If your great great grandfather was a murder does that mean you should be considered a murder too?
    When I die I'm sure to go to heaven, cause I spent my time in hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    They call it the second coming of Christ.
    so the al-mahdi is christ? actually, the al-mahdi is not christ, he is a military ruler, divinely inspired. did you not see the link i put ealier with a description?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    so the al-mahdi is christ? actually, the al-mahdi is not christ, he is a military ruler, divinely inspired. did you not see the link i put ealier with a description?
    noooooooooooo cmon yurt---they are symbolically similar--both religions are awaiting a "savior".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    What was done hundreds of years ago does not apply to today. Please give me an example of the catholic church waging a war of conquest in the last two hundred years. Christianity is about spreading the word of christ and allowing people to chose. islam is about submission. islam means to submit in arabic.

    Rome is a city in Italy. Not a caliphate.

    The sunni belief is that the world needs to be conquered in order for heaven to be brought to earth and everything changed to a perfect world. The shites believe the world needs to be almost completely destroyed before the 12th imam returns and brings heaven to earth. Both want to first establish a middle east caliphate and expand from there.

    I do get tired of the old christians did it in the middle ages routine I keep hearing. That has absolutely nothing to do with whats going on today. If your great great grandfather was a murder does that mean you should be considered a murder too?
    Christianity's goal is to have the _______ world to believe in Christ.


    Ask that question to an audience of Christians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    noooooooooooo cmon yurt---they are symbolically similar--both religions are awaiting a "savior".
    dude, isa/jesus is coming back in islam too, the al-mahdi is totally different person. did you really research it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    Christianity's goal is to have the _______ world to believe in Christ.


    Ask that question to an audience of Christians.
    very different than the question i posed.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    very different than the question i posed.....
    reality is christianity played all this out during the crusades.....islam is playing out their crusade....

    "I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is."

    ~Albert Camus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    And the pals need to do what?
    The palestinian militants need to stop rocket attacks into israel.

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