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    Once again I hear the media spouting from anonymous sources and analysts that we can't succeed. It will take more power than we have to knock out all the sites. iran is just too power for for us, we are stretched too thin. On and on, whine whine.

    Everything isn't done in a day. The first strikes would be against their anti-aircraft defenses with stealth fighters. The big nuke sites would be taken out with B-1 and B-2 bombers, whcih are also stealth. Cruise missiles from the carrier forces in the gulf would take out any naval installations and could target other nuke sites.

    The US is fully capable of fighting a full blown war with iran and still maintain operations in iraq and afganhistan. he libs and naysayers don't comprehend the power "of the force" so to speak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    Yes use nukes to stop someone from getting/using but haven't yet nukes. That will make us look very hypocritical and turn people even more against. An all around bad idea, even an invasion would look better on us then that.
    i am curious.....

    who was with us that has now turned against us? ..... name 2 countries

    and say we nuke iran ...

    who is with us now that will turn against us? ...name 2 countries

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    Ya know, the powerhouse college teams always play a couple of "tune-up" games before they go up againts the "real deal".

    Well, I don't think Iran is the "real deal", but Afghanistan, and Iraq were two "tune-up" games.

    I wonder what response you'd get if you asked around on who wants to be next?
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    Quote Originally Posted by manu1959 View Post
    and say we nuke iran ...

    who is with us now that will turn against us? ...name 2 countries
    a lot of European countries would.Russia and china also wouldn't like it because they get a lot of oil from Iran and the price will go sky high if we do that.

    i am curious.....

    who was with us that has now turned against us? ..... name 2 countries
    Spain is one, Britian will soon be another has soon as Blairs out of office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trobinett View Post
    Ya know, the powerhouse college teams always play a couple of "tune-up" games before they go up againts the "real deal".

    Well, I don't think Iran is the "real deal", but Afghanistan, and Iraq were two "tune-up" games.

    I wonder what response you'd get if you asked around on who wants to be next?
    Probably a lot of "not me's".

    I do think iran is the real deal. It is the head of the snake. Everything revolves around iran. They supply the money, the weapons and even the people. Without them the islamists will be divided and hopefully begin fighting among themselves even more. And without material support they will lose there ability to fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    a lot of European countries would.Russia and china also wouldn't like it because they get a lot of oil from Iran and the price will go sky high if we do that.


    Spain is one, Britian will soon be another has soon as Blairs out of office.
    Spain was intimidated, shame on them.

    Britain isn't "tuning againts us", they are to the point where they can scale back on their operations in the South of Iraq.

    Want to know why? Cause we're WINNING, I know, hard to swallow, but there you have it.
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    Look at the british public, they don't support the war and Blair is loosing in his own country because of the war. I'd call that turning against us which would be escalated by using the taboo nuclear weapon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    a lot of European countries would.Russia and china also wouldn't like it because they get a lot of oil from Iran and the price will go sky high if we do that.


    Spain is one, Britian will soon be another has soon as Blairs out of office.
    hate to tell ya china and russia have never been with us.....

    spain is no longer a us ally and you expect to lose england soon....interesting....guess we should stop sending them money...

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    Quote Originally Posted by manu1959 View Post
    hate to tell ya china and russia have never been with us.....

    spain is no longer a us ally and you expect to lose england soon....interesting....guess we should stop sending them money...
    As usual, LN is about as informed as a mushroom.
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    To an extent they have, of course not has close as Britian or Australia but not flat out enemies like they used to be. China is helping with the NK negotations and Russia with Iran. Would they sell us out if it was in their interests sure but then any country with a lick of self interest would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    To an extent they have, of course not has close as Britian or Australia but not flat out enemies like they used to be. China is helping with the NK negotations and Russia with Iran. Would they sell us out if it was in their interests sure but then any country with a lick of self interest would.
    Which is EXACTLY why we need to be looking out for OUR self-interest.

    You're not going to say it's not okay for us to do it to them first when you obviously have no problem with them doing it to us, are you?
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    Its okay for us to anything in our own self interest but it first must be proved to be in our self interests and the consequences not worse to our interests than the initial action. I’m not convince the solution nuking Iran/or getting into an all out war with them would be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    Its okay for us to anything in our own self interest but it first must be proved to be in our self interests and the consequences not worse to our interests than the initial action. I’m not convince the solution nuking Iran/or getting into an all out war with them would be.
    How many threats does it take before it is sufficient to assume Iran is probably not kidding? Or does it take a US city going up in a mushroom cloud in order to be "sufficient?"
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    His threats have mainly been against Israel not us. Following that line it is okay to assume when they become a threat Israel will be the first to act and remove the problem. Their inteligience in the region is better than ours as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    His threats have mainly been against Israel not us. Following that line it is okay to assume when they become a threat Israel will be the first to act and remove the problem. Their inteligience in the region is better than ours as well.
    Oh really ?------then how in the hell did the get ambushed by Hezbullies ?

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