eXpelled!

[Hagbard Celine]

Hitler had zero regard for Christianity. He took small portions of its history and bastardized it to suit his agenda. Same as clinic bombers do in more modern times.

I think what Stein is doing is demonstration the absurd by being absurd. He is using the same type of logic that the anti ID groups are doing.

What is so hard to understand? In order to be "scientific," one must meet certain parameters. ID does not meet those parameters therefore it is not scientific and it will never be taken seriously by any serious scientist. It has nothing to do with being "anti" ID. People are perfectly free to imagine whatever they want in their imaginations. We don't teach these imaginings in science class though.

[glockmail]

What is so hard to understand? In order to be "scientific," one must meet certain parameters. ID does not meet those parameters therefore it is not scientific and it will never be taken seriously by any serious scientist. It has nothing to do with being "anti" ID. People are perfectly free to imagine whatever they want in their imaginations. We don't teach these imaginings in science class though.

I'm a scientist and I take it very seriously.

[diuretic]

In a world without ethics Stein's statement is completely true. And the foundation for ethics is Judaism-Christianity.

No it's not. The foundation of Christian ethics is found in the gospels. The foundation for ethics is much broader and older.

[diuretic]

I'm a scientist and I take it very seriously.

You can do your science and believe personally whatever you wish as long as you use proper scientific method in your scientific work, the two can co-exist. IDers have a twisted view of that relationship.

[glockmail]

No it's not. The foundation of Christian ethics is found in the gospels. The foundation for ethics is much broader and older.

Older than Judaism?

[glockmail]

You can do your science and believe personally whatever you wish as long as you use proper scientific method in your scientific work, the two can co-exist. IDers have a twisted view of that relationship.

I have found the Bible to be an excellent "road map" to scientific work. God's also there to give me guidance in so many ways.