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    Default How many here will sit down and read the Obama speech?

    I just read it and it brought me to tears.

    read or listen please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    I just read it and it brought me to tears.

    read or listen please.
    Just watched it... sounded like a politician that got busted. Here is a link for those interested. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540...0824&#23690824
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    If he was trying to distance himself from Pastor Wrong's racist and anti-American rantings, he did a very poor job of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    I just read it and it brought me to tears.

    read or listen please.
    Cult followers are so easily moved.
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    Why the Hell should I have to press “1” for ENGLISH?

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    Already did, read it before he gave it. Drudge had it posted in it's entirety prior to the delivery. Then I listend to live.

    It didn't bring me to tears. I read it for what it was. Damage control coupled with an effort to take the focus off of his controversial spiritual advisor. Listening to it wasn't much different.

    I wasn't impressed.

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    Can you give some commentary on whay you did not like about it?


    I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother – a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.




    In fact, a similar anger exists within segments of the white community. Most working- and middle-class white Americans don’t feel that they have been particularly privileged by their race. Their experience is the immigrant experience – as far as they’re concerned, no one’s handed them anything, they’ve built it from scratch. They’ve worked hard all their lives, many times only to see their jobs shipped overseas or their pension dumped after a lifetime of labor. They are anxious about their futures, and feel their dreams slipping away; in an era of stagnant wages and global competition, opportunity comes to be seen as a zero sum game, in which your dreams come at my expense. So when they are told to bus their children to a school across town; when they hear that an African American is getting an advantage in landing a good job or a spot in a good college because of an injustice that they themselves never committed; when they’re told that their fears about crime in urban neighborhoods are somehow prejudiced, resentment builds over time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    Can you give some commentary on whay you did not like about it?


    I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother – a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.
    The guy is a liar so you can't trust the statement boldened...

    Before the speech he had a problem with his ministers hate speech. After the speech he has a problem with his ministers hate speech and even claims to be present during some of the disgusting ministers hate... he knows that there are more church DVDs waiting for the general election that show him present in the church with something possibly worse than has been shown so far.
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    Who wrote it?
    No matter where I've traveled or how great the trip was, it's always wonderful to return to my country, The United States of America......... me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Classact View Post
    The guy is a liar so you can't trust the statement boldened...

    Before the speech he had a problem with his ministers hate speech. After the speech he has a problem with his ministers hate speech and even claims to be present during some of the disgusting ministers hate... he knows that there are more church DVDs waiting for the general election that show him present in the church with something possibly worse than has been shown so far.

    On what basis do you deem him a liar?

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    Obama spent a minute or two condemning Wright's racist and anti-American rants. If he had stopped there, it might have been ok. But he then spent the bulk of the speech justifying the rants, by trying to convince us that it is all so understandable given the realities of life in America for black people. In the end, he trashed a great opportunity to distance himself from Wright and assuage America's fears about his true agenda.

    I think he made things even worse for himself today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    Can you give some commentary on whay you did not like about it?


    I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother – a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.

    .
    Do you think there is a difference between your grandma uttering a racial stereotype and a pastor saying whites developed AIDS to kill black folks????

    How about uttering a statement saying blacks who commit crims against other blacks are fighting the wrong enemy?????????????? I see this statement as encouraging violence against whites.


    Maybe it's just me, but I do see a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    On what basis do you deem him a liar?
    He knew the minister was rabid before he ran for office... he admitted that he has witnessed similar events that, may be on film to be shown in the future. He had Rev. Wright on his team until busted last week and then fired him. Why did he fire him from his team? Today he says he says, "I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community."... so if he feels this way why did he fire him from his team?

    The speech is really great in words but was written to serve a purpose and the purpose was to separate him from the Reverends words... It didn't work no more than firing the Reverend from his team worked...
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    I understand.

    I had hope.

    It was foolish of me.

    I had hope that you would actually read the entire speech and listen to what he was saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sitarro View Post
    Who wrote it?
    OHHHH........OHHHHHH........I Know............It wasn't Obama!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    I understand.

    I had hope.

    It was foolish of me.

    I had hope that you would actually read the entire speech and listen to what he was saying.
    Way to ignore triggs post #11. I think she brought some very pointed arguments to light yet YOU glazed right over them!!!!! How come?????
    Last edited by Nukeman; 03-18-2008 at 11:57 AM.
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