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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    no one is "making excuses". it is a fact that slavery from 1600 until the Civil War, and Jim Crow for the NEXT century after that has put blacks in America at a significant socioeconomic disadvantage. To deny that is ridiculous.
    i'm sure obama really feels disadvantaged.....harvard law, editor law review, senator, now front runner for president

    give me a break, to continue harping on it after nearly 50 years of reverse discrimination in black's favor, enough already, the facts currently do not support your false assertion

    let's get bill cosby in on this, he'd rip MFM good

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    There ya have it people! manfrommaine is the racist progeny of slave traders whose real intention is to keep the slaves on the plantation. He has no morals, no scruples, and no honor.

    And in case you missed it fuckwit, the Irish were used as SLAVES long before they were afforded indentured servitude. Go back to the late 1500's and early 1600's and you'll find the English used slavery as a means of getting rid of the Irish dissidents.

    So go back and get an education on the Irish heritage you claim, you pissant progeny of slavers and beneficiary of blood monies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CockySOB View Post
    There ya have it people! manfrommaine is the racist progeny of slave traders whose real intention is to keep the slaves on the plantation. He has no morals, no scruples, and no honor.

    please explain to me how the fact that my grandmother and my great grandparents came from Ireland in the 1880s makes me the racist progeny of slave traders.

    I'll wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    i'm sure obama really feels disadvantaged.....harvard law, editor law review, senator, now front runner for president

    give me a break, to continue harping on it after nearly 50 years of reverse discrimination in black's favor, enough already, the facts currently do not support your false assertion

    let's get bill cosby in on this, he'd rip MFM good
    so...50 years wipes the slate clean for the previous 350 years? no harm no foul? whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    so...50 years wipes the slate clean for the previous 350 years? no harm no foul? whatever.
    obama really feels disadvantaged.....harvard law, editor law review, senator, lives in a 1.6 million dollar home, now front runner for president

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    Look fuckstick. do the math. My grandmother came over on the boat. I don't owe you shit.
    Then do you still think that blacks in America are owed something?

    Hypocrite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CockySOB View Post
    Then do you still think that blacks in America are owed something?

    Hypocrite.
    why does the fact that my grandmother came over from Ireland 120 years ago make me a hypocrite?

    and when have I ever suggested that blacks are owed any reparations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    obama really feels disadvantaged.....harvard law, editor law review, senator, lives in a 1.6 million dollar home, now front runner for president

    so because one black man has made it big, that means that all of them have.

    Hell...if Shaq is 7 feet tall, that must mean that ALL blacks are, eh?

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    MFM, I may be overreacting here. You're laying claim to Ireland as your homeland in ANY sense, while not having a clue about the reality of the Irish and Scots-Irish by the English has hit en extremely raw nerve. I get so pissed when I hear people discuss slavery ONLY in terms of black African slavery. So I do apologize if I went overboard. But you really should look into your ancestry going back at least to the 1600's if at all possible. It's always possible (shudder) that we might have some common ancestry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CockySOB View Post
    MFM, I may be overreacting here. You're laying claim to Ireland as your homeland in ANY sense, while not having a clue about the reality of the Irish and Scots-Irish by the English has hit en extremely raw nerve. I get so pissed when I hear people discuss slavery ONLY in terms of black African slavery. So I do apologize if I went overboard. But you really should look into your ancestry going back at least to the 1600's if at all possible. It's always possible (shudder) that we might have some common ancestry.
    my grandmother was an O'Roark (O'Ruairc) from County Cork...She was only five when she came to America...

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    no one is "making excuses". it is a fact that slavery from 1600 until the Civil War, and Jim Crow for the NEXT century after that has put blacks in America at a significant socioeconomic disadvantage. To deny that is ridiculous.
    yes excuses for failure are convenient......no matter how many decades ago it occurred......just out of curiosity when does the excuse term out…..

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    Quote Originally Posted by manu1959 View Post
    yes excuses for failure are convenient......no matter how many decades ago it occurred......just out of curiosity when does the excuse term out…..


    I am curious... what part of "no one is making excuses" did you NOT understand the first fucking time I typed it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by manu1959 View Post
    yes excuses for failure are convenient......no matter how many decades ago it occurred......just out of curiosity when does the excuse term out…..

    How long were the germans blamed for the holocaust, which took place in less than a 10 year period, who's survivors alive today are still getting restitution?

    I know I did not answer your question....I didn't because I did not know the answer, it just brought up my other question above...




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    Quote Originally Posted by manu1959 View Post
    yes excuses for failure are convenient......no matter how many decades ago it occurred......just out of curiosity when does the excuse term out…..
    Also Manu, there is a difference between excuses and extenuating circumstances.....extenuating circumstances is usually always considered under our laws, at least when it comes to punishment, and when it comes to retribution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    so because one black man has made it big, that means that all of them have.

    Hell...if Shaq is 7 feet tall, that must mean that ALL blacks are, eh?
    and you bemoan my argument skills you're being intellectually dishonest. you know full well that there isn't just ONE black man that has made it big.

    that was weakest attempt at someone trying to prove their point i have ever seen....

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