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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    and distribution of wealth is socialism:

    Socialism refers to group of ideologies and political movements with the goal of a socio-economic system in which property and the distribution of wealth are subject to control by the community.

    wiki it
    learn how to read.

    a cheese sandwich is not a ham and cheese sandwich.

    and how are you coming on that list of the items that I mentioned that were spearheaded by conservatives?

    not too good, eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    and if they maintain their same desired profit margin, and the cost of oil goes up, so do their profits. correct? so... given our addiction to oil, the oil companies do not see and elasticity in demand that would cause them to really give a shit about how much oil costs...as far as they are concerned, higher oil prices mean higher profits. Far from being the saviors and supporters of our economy, as RSR portrays them, they are really much more akin to our drug dealers, and with just as much integrity.

    Despite the huge amount of taxes oil companies pay, to the left it is not enough. A tax rate of 41%



    Exxon's 2007 Tax Bill: $30 Billion
    posted on: February 05, 2008 | about stocks: XOM

    Corporate profits receive a lot of media attention, but what receives considerably less attention are the corporate taxes paid on corporate profits. Do a Google search for "Exxon profits" and you'll get about 8,000 hits. Now try "Exxon taxes" and you'll get a little more than 300 hits. That's a ratio of about 33 to 1.

    I'm pretty sure that Exxon's tax payment in 2007 of $30 billion (that's $30,000,000,000) is a record, exceeding the $28 billion it paid last year.

    By the way, Exxon pays taxes at a rate of 41% on its taxable income!

    [Update: The $40.6 billion and $39.5 billion figures are after-tax profits. For 2006, Exxon's EBT (earnings before tax) was $67.4 billion, it paid $27.9 billion in taxes (41.4% tax rate), and its NIAT (net income after tax), or profit, was $39.5 billion.]

    http://seekingalpha.com/article/6313...ill-30-billion


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Despite the huge amount of taxes oil companies pay, to the left it is not enough. A tax rate of 41%



    Exxon's 2007 Tax Bill: $30 Billion
    posted on: February 05, 2008 | about stocks: XOM

    Corporate profits receive a lot of media attention, but what receives considerably less attention are the corporate taxes paid on corporate profits. Do a Google search for "Exxon profits" and you'll get about 8,000 hits. Now try "Exxon taxes" and you'll get a little more than 300 hits. That's a ratio of about 33 to 1.

    I'm pretty sure that Exxon's tax payment in 2007 of $30 billion (that's $30,000,000,000) is a record, exceeding the $28 billion it paid last year.

    By the way, Exxon pays taxes at a rate of 41% on its taxable income!

    [Update: The $40.6 billion and $39.5 billion figures are after-tax profits. For 2006, Exxon's EBT (earnings before tax) was $67.4 billion, it paid $27.9 billion in taxes (41.4% tax rate), and its NIAT (net income after tax), or profit, was $39.5 billion.]

    http://seekingalpha.com/article/6313...ill-30-billion
    you didn't address my point. why am I not surprised?

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    I'm proud of my johnson

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    learn how to read.

    a cheese sandwich is not a ham and cheese sandwich.

    and how are you coming on that list of the items that I mentioned that were spearheaded by conservatives?

    not too good, eh?
    you just haven't been able to convince the masses to put the ham in yet, you have half the ingredients because you know traditional socialism is disfavored by the majority. so you slink back some of the control, big deal. it is in "effect" socialism.

    howz that listerine taste potty mouth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    you didn't address my point. why am I not surprised?
    You're talking in circles again--why am I not surprised ?

    A nutcase will do nutty things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    you just haven't been able to convince the masses to put the ham in yet, you have half the ingredients because you know traditional socialism is disfavored by the majority. so you slink back some of the control, big deal. it is in "effect" socialism.

    howz that listerine taste potty mouth?
    until the ham is in there, it ain't socialism.... that's fact. Democrats have no desire to publicly own all private property.

    and if you don't fucking like my word choices, put me on ignore, you little pussy. Why in the world should I clean up my language to placate an annoying little worm like you? Now how are you coming on that list of conservative spearheaded progressive initiatives from my list? Or are you gonna slink away from THAT slice of bullshit as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    until the ham is in there, it ain't socialism.... that's fact. Democrats have no desire to publicly own all private property.

    and if you don't fucking like my word choices, put me on ignore, you little pussy. Why in the world should I clean up my language to placate an annoying little worm like you? Now how are you coming on that list of conservative spearheaded progressive initiatives from my list? Or are you gonna slink away from THAT slice of bullshit as well?
    your words....

    wow. what an enormous cyber penis you have! you are so incredibly macho!

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    you don't have to be macho to put me on ignore...and you don't have to have a great deal of integrity to run away from your own stupid statements.

    Got that list together yet?

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    When I hear a political party call themselves----Progressive, two words come to mind...

    oppressive..

    depressive
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself."
    Tullius Cicero (106-43 BC)

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    I am proud of our military. I am proud of my father's generation and how they fought to end fascism. I am proud of my own service in the Navy during the cold war...?
    the one liberals opposed and Reagan stood firm to let us win.

    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    I am proud of America's steady march toward progressive liberalism over the last century and a half.?
    Yea, build up strength from conservative values, then insist on changing it to socialism
    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    ...from ending slavery to passing women's suffrage,?
    conservatives did that
    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    to child labor laws, to giving unions the right to organize,?
    conservatives again

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    workplace safety, environmental protection,?
    passed by NIXON, OSHA, EPA

    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    minimum wage, social security, medicare, medicaid,?
    all disasters
    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    the GI Bill, Civil Rights.... there are MANY things that make me proud to be an American.

    What are YOU proud of, RSR?

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    Mr. Mail order! LOL

    you are on drugs if you think that "conservatives" ended slavery and passed women's suffrage.... and you really do need to understand the difference between the words "conservative" and "republican". Nixon was the latter, NOT the former.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    you don't have to be macho to put me on ignore...and you don't have to have a great deal of integrity to run away from your own stupid statements.

    Got that list together yet?
    you so ansy pansy when it comes to wanting a response, but when others have asked it of you, you have no problem taking your time.... besides meltdown boy, i was working on a project and didn't have time for a response

    civil rights
    end of slavery

    i don't recall your whole list, so thats it for now, besides, you already admitted that "they may not all be" from the dems, so even YOU have doubts...LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    you so ansy pansy when it comes to wanting a response, but when others have asked it of you, you have no problem taking your time.... besides meltdown boy, i was working on a project and didn't have time for a response

    civil rights
    end of slavery

    i don't recall your whole list, so thats it for now, besides, you already admitted that "they may not all be" from the dems, so even YOU have doubts...LOL
    and you too don't know the difference between conservative and republican. They are NOT synonymous. idiot.

    And, as I said, I didn't ADMIT anything. I NEVER claimed that any of them had anything to do with democrats..... you stupid fuck....

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    and you too don't know the difference between conservative and republican. They are NOT synonymous. idiot.

    And, as I said, I didn't ADMIT anything. I NEVER claimed that any of them had anything to do with democrats..... you stupid fuck....
    so they were liberals ninny?

    you can't hijack progress made by republicans and claim some new party or idealogue was responsible. republicans, conservatives far out voted liberal dems when it came to civil rights...you bullshit claim that they weren't conservatives, but social progressives or whatever BS name you are trying to pawn off (didn't exist then, you are trying to re-write history)...

    Most Americans probably don't know it, but the civil rights acts of the mid-1960s could not have happened without Republicans. Their votes, and the leadership of Senate Republican Leader Everett Dirksen at the time, helped break filibusters and roll over opposition to civil rights legislation in 1964 and 1965. Higher percentages of Republicans than Democrats voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
    http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion...politics_N.htm

    now stop your meltdown and come back to rational debates where you don't constantly insult people....or are you going to threaten me with pissing on my grave....

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