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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    so they were liberals ninny?

    you can't hijack progress made by republicans and claim some new party or idealogue was responsible. republicans, conservatives far out voted liberal dems when it came to civil rights...you bullshit claim that they weren't conservatives, but social progressives or whatever BS name you are trying to pawn off (didn't exist then, you are trying to re-write history)...



    http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion...politics_N.htm

    now stop your meltdown and come back to rational debates where you don't constantly insult people....or are you going to threaten me with pissing on my grave....

    again... if you don't know the difference between conservatives and republicans, maybe you should refrain from chewing your shoe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    again... if you don't know the difference between conservatives and republicans, maybe you should refrain from chewing your shoe.
    AGAIN are you claiming they were/are not conservatives? if so, where is YOUR proof. you are hijacking their good deeds because you are making up their belief system. are you saying conservatives do not agree that the races should be equal? that slavery should still be legal?

    you're full of caca
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    AGAIN are you claiming they were/are not conservatives? if so, where is YOUR proof. you are hijacking their good deeds because you are making up their belief system. are you saying conservatives do not agree that the races should be equal? that slavery should still be legal?

    you're full of caca

    I am saying nothing of the kind. I AM saying that conservatives opposed the abolition of slavery... as they did the passage of women's suffrage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    I am saying nothing of the kind. I AM saying that conservatives opposed the abolition of slavery... as they did the passage of women's suffrage.
    So when do the liberals intend to free the slaves ?

    A nutcase will do nutty things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    I am saying nothing of the kind. I AM saying that conservatives opposed the abolition of slavery... as they did the passage of women's suffrage.

    any of those conservatives still alive.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    I am saying nothing of the kind. I AM saying that conservatives opposed the abolition of slavery... as they did the passage of women's suffrage.
    conservatives supported anti slavery. lincoln, a republican, and conservative (despite your protestations which i have no doubt will come) made abolition possible.

    i never mentioned women's suffrage, but will research it. i mentioned civil rights and how without republicans (majority of whom were conservatives) were largely responsible for civil rights. did you read my link
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    So when do the liberals intend to free the slaves ?
    Quote Originally Posted by manu1959 View Post
    any of those conservatives still alive.....
    frick and frack the comedy team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    conservatives supported anti slavery. lincoln, a republican, and conservative (despite your protestations which i have no doubt will come) made abolition possible.

    i never mentioned women's suffrage, but will research it. i mentioned civil rights and how without republicans (majority of whom were conservatives) were largely responsible for civil rights. did you read my link
    do some research about the great southern conservative John C. Calhoun and the impact of his philosphy on the confederacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    frick and frack the comedy team.
    questions too tough for ya mr insensitive.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by manu1959 View Post
    questions too tough for ya mr insensitive.....
    no.... just too stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    no.... just too stupid.
    don't be so hard on yourself.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    do some research about the great southern conservative John C. Calhoun and the impact of his philosphy on the confederacy.
    what does this have to do with my claims....he was a democrat-republican....are you still denying the civil rights claim that i have now mentioned 4 times, to which you have ignored 4 times......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    what does this have to do with my claims....he was a democrat-republican....are you still denying the civil rights claim that i have now mentioned 4 times, to which you have ignored 4 times......
    he was A CONSERVATIVE! if you keep willfully refusing to understand the difference between political party affiliation and political philosophy, there really is no reason to continue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    he was A CONSERVATIVE! if you keep willfully refusing to understand the difference between political party affiliation and political philosophy, there really is no reason to continue.
    are you saying that no conservative supported civil rights....are you saying no conservative supported the end of slavery....and he does not represent ALL conservatives ninny


    edit: is there only one school of conservatisim?
    Last edited by Yurt; 03-31-2008 at 09:40 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    he was A CONSERVATIVE! if you keep willfully refusing to understand the difference between political party affiliation and political philosophy, there really is no reason to continue.
    so one guy.....makes all conservatives bad......

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