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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    what anyone living outside america does or does not do regarding international law does not change the fact that the constitution is quite clear about the importance of upholding all treaties.

    Again...if we get into a treaty that we no longer like, we can abrogate it. Do you understand what that means?
    This is war - and a war we need to win. Wimps like you will ensure we lose this war, by trying to fight in courts and not the battlefield

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    what anyone living outside america does or does not do regarding international law does not change the fact that the constitution is quite clear about the importance of upholding all treaties.

    Again...if we get into a treaty that we no longer like, we can abrogate it. Do you understand what that means?
    RSR was right. You are more interested in the coddling terrorists then defeating them

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    Quote Originally Posted by semi liberal girl View Post
    This is war - and a war we need to win. Wimps like you will ensure we lose this war, by trying to fight in courts and not the battlefield
    I am perfectly OK with fighting on the battlefield. If we don't want to follow a treaty, we can abrogate it in a hearbeat. Why whould you not want to follow our constitution?

    and I notice that you don't answer simple questions any better than your mentor. methinks you are just his feminine alterego.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    no. your right, as a citizen, is to take steps to get treaties abrogated. until they are, they should be obeyed as the supreme law of the land.
    i disagree.....if i wait till a government that is not protecting me to protect me i will be dead.....

    "I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is."

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    I am perfectly OK with fighting on the battlefield. If we don't want to follow a treaty, we can abrogate it in a hearbeat. Why whould you not want to follow our constitution?

    and I notice that you don't answer simple questions any better than your mentor. methinks you are just his feminine alterego.
    Based on your posts, you are not very good at thinking - so I am not surprised

    You are a disgrace to the Democrat party, and to the board

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    Quote Originally Posted by semi liberal girl View Post
    Based on your posts, you are not very good at thinking - so I am not surprised

    You are a disgrace to the Democrat party, and to the board
    so why do you refuse to answer simple questions?

    why shouldn't we simply abrogate any treaty that we no longer wish to abide by?

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    so why do you refuse to answer simple questions?

    why shouldn't we simply abrogate any treaty that we no longer wish to abide by?
    In war time, I do not give a damn about a worthless treaty. Only winning the war by any and all means

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    Quote Originally Posted by semi liberal girl View Post
    In war time, I do not give a damn about a worthless treaty. Only winning the war by any and all means
    so we'll have to agree to disagree. Abrogating a treaty does not take much time or effort.... and it is certainly more appropriate than pissing on the constitution while simultaneously telling the whole world that our word means shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    so we'll have to agree to disagree. Abrogating a treaty does not take much time or effort.... and it is certainly more appropriate than pissing on the constitution while simultaneously telling the whole world that our word means shit.
    Well your word means shit - you have prven that with your posts

    As far as the terrorists. I want them dead or loclked up. While you want them protected, while handcuffing the war effort

    Like many in my party are doing

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    so we'll have to agree to disagree. Abrogating a treaty does not take much time or effort.... and it is certainly more appropriate than pissing on the constitution while simultaneously telling the whole world that our word means shit.
    at this point....what the world thinks of me is not too important.....and i don't see a group of people that want us to fail .... abrogating a treaty that is furthering their domestic attack on this nation....

    "I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is."

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    Quote Originally Posted by semi liberal girl View Post
    Well your word means shit - you have prven that with your posts

    As far as the terrorists. I want them dead or loclked up. While you want them protected, while handcuffing the war effort

    Like many in my party are doing
    I want none of my enemies protected. I want the constitution protected. when our military members take their oaths of enlistment or commission, they swear, not to defend America, but to defend the constitution. That is not by accident.

    Again...why would you not simply abrogate the treaty rather than send a message to every country in the whole world that when we sign a treaty with them, it isn't worth the paper it is printed on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by manu1959 View Post
    at this point....what the world thinks of me is not too important.....and i don't see a group of people that want us to fail .... abrogating a treaty that is furthering their domestic attack on this nation....
    Who gives a damn what others think of the US? When they need help they always dial area code 202

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    I want none of my enemies protected. I want the constitution protected. when our military members take their oaths of enlistment or commission, they swear, not to defend America, but to defend the constitution. That is not by accident.

    Again...why would you not simply abrogate the treaty rather than send a message to every country in the whole world that when we sign a treaty with them, it isn't worth the paper it is printed on?
    treaties that hurt america are not worth the paper they are printed on .....

    "I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is."

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    Quote Originally Posted by manu1959 View Post
    at this point....what the world thinks of me is not too important.....and i don't see a group of people that want us to fail .... abrogating a treaty that is furthering their domestic attack on this nation....

    are you suggesting that our reputation as a responsible member of the community of nations is not worth maintaining? Why would ANY country ever enter into any treaty with us if we made it clear that we had no intention of following them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by manu1959 View Post
    treaties that hurt america are not worth the paper they are printed on .....

    then abrogate them...

    if you do not follow them, you piss on the constitution, which is quite valuable.

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