Pentagon warns of June pay crunch for troops

[rppearso]

Who getws to determine if they are stupid contract or not... It isn't just one sided as to how you "feel", it is how BOTH parties feel.

You obviously couldn't cut it you got out we fully understand that but you than continuosly BITCH about anything military. i suppose if you had a bad experience at the doctors office you would tell everyone NOT to go to the doctor????? Get over it!!!!!!!!!

You really showed me there,

[Nukeman]

You really showed me there,

AS your so fond of saying answer the freaking question..... Or are you going to quit the board as well and tell everyone you know to stay away because we dont play to YOUR rules....

WHO GETS TO DETERMINE IF THE CONTRACT IS STUPID...... Only you? or both parties? is only your opinion the one that matters????? Or do you NOT want to debate your stance......

[rppearso]

AS your so fond of saying answer the freaking question..... Or are you going to quit the board as well and tell everyone you know to stay away because we dont play to YOUR rules....

WHO GETS TO DETERMINE IF THE CONTRACT IS STUPID...... Only you? or both parties? is only your opinion the one that matters????? Or do you NOT want to debate your stance......

Yes I do, and its one that you signed and now your type are bitching and moaning about pay cuts. You want to throw the book at me because I got out but now your type are bitching, your bitching about the very thing you are so willing to throw the book at me for but oh its different now that it sucks for you thats what makes you a hypocrite.

This is what I am debating period.

[Gaffer]

Yes I do, and its one that you signed and now your type are bitching and moaning about pay cuts. You want to throw the book at me because I got out but now your type are bitching, your bitching about the very thing you are so willing to throw the book at me for but oh its different now that it sucks for you thats what makes you a hypocrite.

This is what I am debating period.

Your wrong. Whether the contract is good or bad is a courts decision, not yours. And there aren't any pay cuts. There is only the usual dems trying to tell Bush what to do and trying to be commanders in chief. They will fail like they always have. And you will fail like you always have.

[rppearso]

Your wrong. Whether the contract is good or bad is a courts decision, not yours. And there aren't any pay cuts. There is only the usual dems trying to tell Bush what to do and trying to be commanders in chief. They will fail like they always have. And you will fail like you always have.

That does not answer anything

[rppearso]

Your wrong. Whether the contract is good or bad is a courts decision, not yours. And there aren't any pay cuts. There is only the usual dems trying to tell Bush what to do and trying to be commanders in chief. They will fail like they always have. And you will fail like you always have.

BTW thats the job of the legislative branch, thats why this is not a dictator ship or an empire. Thats what makes america so great is the balance of power and that is all the legislative branch is doing is balancing the power, if the troops suffer oh well, there blood will be on bushs hands for not executing the will of the people, the people put democrats in office for a reason and that reason was to stop the war. But you dont care about any of this you just want to flame.

[Gaffer]

BTW thats the job of the legislative branch, thats why this is not a dictator ship or an empire. Thats what makes america so great is the balance of power and that is all the legislative branch is doing is balancing the power, if the troops suffer oh well, there blood will be on bushs hands for not executing the will of the people, the people put democrats in office for a reason and that reason was to stop the war. But you dont care about any of this you just want to flame.

You really need to learn how the branches of government work.

[jimnyc]

Wow what a string of red neck posts. Our sole coustomers are not the military, I work in oil and gas and everyone in the world needs it so im not to worried. As far as all the other mindless remarks whatever, no one wants to debate they just want to be idiot rednecks and maybe pretty soon you can be an idiot redneck with no paycheck because you signed on the dotted line. It doesnt matter if I signed the dotted line because I dont tout that as an excuse to have to put up with bull shit from idiots.

I dont tout the dotted line argument, you do. The dotted line does not mean anything to me. Yes I signed it but I dont support that anyone should have to honor it, you do. So now you guys are whining and crying, guess what you signed the dotted line so why dont you practice what you preach. Im not the one preaching about the dotted line. A contract has to involve both parties walking away happy, if not its a bogus contract. The answer to your question does not get any clearer than that.

That is absolutely INCORRECT. All that is necessary for a contract to exist is a "meeting of the minds". Hell, you wouldn't even need to sign, verbal would have sufficed. The military offered you training, pay and a career - you're initial showing up to serve would have been your acceptance. Any court in the land would see your signature to that contract as a "meeting of the minds" and that a valid contract existed that you became a party of. The time to contest said contract or argue about it would have been BEFORE you signed it. I tell everyone this who buy a used car "as is" without having it inspected first. When it dies 2 weeks later, enjoy your car! The time to fight over a contract is before you sign, you can't very well complain much later when things don't work out to your liking.

[Yurt]

Yea it must be impossible for people with other view points to also be successful. All democrats must clerk at the 7/11 except for the ones in office of course. All comments posted since myn Can no one answer a simple question. BTW not honoring stupid contracts is not dishonorable.

so contracts are meaningless to you...

[gabosaurus]

The truth is now known! The Pentagon hates our troops and hates America.

[rppearso]

You really need to learn how the branches of government work.

I understand how thing traditionally work. The issue here is since the judicial branch wont empeach bush and are not electable the only thing the people can do is vote in legislators that will stone wall the president. Since the legislative branch does not have a quarm to all out stone wall the president through over riding his veto they have to take the back door which is cutting off his funding. The will of the people will be done, the troops are not the people, you are a small percentage of the over all population. The hardliner, hearlessness of the republican party as well as the total fiscal irrisponsibility is what totally sunk you, and I see nothing changes with republicans as they sit on this forum and spew out hard talk, swear words, inflamitory remarks and the like, the people are tired of this crap.

BTW no one anwsered the original question, people just said a bunch of words.

[Kathianne]

I understand how thing traditionally work. The issue here is since the judicial branch wont empeach bush and are not electable the only thing the people can do is vote in legislators that will stone wall the president. Since the legislative branch does not have a quarm to all out stone wall the president through over riding his veto they have to take the back door which is cutting off his funding. The will of the people will be done, the troops are not the people, you are a small percentage of the over all population. The hardliner, hearlessness of the republican party as well as the total fiscal irrisponsibility is what totally sunk you, and I see nothing changes with republicans as they sit on this forum and spew out hard talk, swear words, inflamitory remarks and the like, the people are tired of this crap.

BTW no one anwsered the original question, people just said a bunch of words.

I wonder. Do you have awareness of just how lame you reveal yourself? Is it only us that you choose to do so with? Has your family a clue to how damaged you are?

[theHawk]

I hope they dont pass it, you will see how much the executive branch really cares about its troops on what happens after it doesnt pass. This will teach alot of people a lesson that the american people dont support this war.

The executive branch doesn't control the money, Congress does. If Congress doesn't pay the troops, they'll get kicked out of office the next election. A vast majority wouldn't put up with playing politics with troops and their families. Only shitbag cowards like yourself who couldn't hack it in boot camp and hate everyone else that did make it through would want to see that happen.

[Nukeman]

Yes I do, and its one that you signed and now your type are bitching and moaning about pay cuts. You want to throw the book at me because I got out but now your type are bitching, your bitching about the very thing you are so willing to throw the book at me for but oh its different now that it sucks for you thats what makes you a hypocrite.

This is what I am debating period.

You didn't answer my question! Are you retarded or what? I have to ask due to your absolute lack of spelling and grammer and also how you completely go off on a different tangent to the QUESTION I asked YOU.... Will you answer or not? If not, why not?

[rppearso]

Who getws to determine if they are stupid contract or not... It isn't just one sided as to how you "feel", it is how BOTH parties feel.

You obviously couldn't cut it you got out we fully understand that but you than continuosly BITCH about anything military. i suppose if you had a bad experience at the doctors office you would tell everyone NOT to go to the doctor????? Get over it!!!!!!!!!

What it boils down to is I agree with contracts regarding financial commitments but I strongly disagree with contracts involving indentured servituded, the contract just by its nature is null and void as soon as either party no longer wants to hold to it, the constitution superceeds these contracts. The only reason the military gets away with these contracts and the draft is because of a single supreme court precedence which I think is total BS.

This is a new human rights act that applies to forign laborers but could easily be applied to the military: http://www.theorator.com/bills110/text/hr1763.html

The 13th ammedment protects us from indentured servitude. Even though the supreme court ruled in favor of military servitude, I dont agree with a single court presidence over riding the constitution.

That being said I believe you should have to repay any monitary bonuses you receive to satisfy your financial end of the contract but not physical presence as that is servitude (whether you signed up for it or not).

So now that also being said your type are the ones touting the signed on the dotted argument and now you bitch and cry about the book being thrown back at you.