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    Default Proof of Global Warming

    5-22-08
    Snow fell in the San Bernardino Mountains, thunderstorms unleashed downpours and hail, and heavy surf was building along the coast Thursday as Southern California moved from a spring heat wave into blustery, rainy weather.

    The overnight snowfall in the mountain resort region northeast of Los Angeles coated some peaks but melted quickly at lower elevations.

    “It’s bizarre,” Snow Valley ski resort marketing supervisor Roger Vieau told KABC-TV. “It’s very late in the spring for this to be happening. I don’t ever remember it snowing this late in the season.”

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    In Central California, a National Weather Service surf advisory was in effect for wind-driven 10- to 14-foot waves, with some local sets to 18 feet along the coast of San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara counties.

    http://www.sanluisobispo.com/breakin...ry/367467.html

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    I was just talking about the local weather with someone today.....about how cold it was the week before Memorial Day.....it brought to my recollection that this is actually "normal" since the general rule of thumb around here is not to plant tender flowers until after Memorial Day because we can still get a killing frost.....it has been unusually warm in the spring for the last five or six years and we got spoiled.....
    ...full immersion.....

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    This is the coldest it has been in Phoenix in May in years. It was in the 60s with rain and wind. May is usually our dry month with everyone talking about how it's been 50+ days without any measureable rain.
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    those who don't understand the difference between climate and weather probably should avoid threads that discuss either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    those who don't understand the difference between climate and weather probably should avoid threads that discuss either.
    Those who can't discuss things with people without acting like a spoiled little 2nd grader should spend their time elsewhere. Like in timeout or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ranger View Post
    Those who can't discuss things with people without acting like a spoiled little 2nd grader should spend their time elsewhere. Like in timeout or something.

    can you talk about the difference between climate and weather or are you only capable of sophomoric insults?

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    those who don't understand the difference between climate and weather probably should avoid threads that discuss either.
    and thise whoi walk in lockstep with Al Gore and the global warming kooks will run down the thread, and pretend we are to dumb to understand the nyth of global warming

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    can you talk about the difference between climate and weather or are you only capable of sophomoric insults?
    You are the one who acted like a typical arogant self centered liberal - which of course - you are

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    Quote Originally Posted by semi liberal girl View Post
    You are the one who acted like a typical arogant self centered liberal - which of course - you are
    31,000 scientists signed a petition saying global warming does not exist - but you and Al know more then they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    those who don't understand the difference between climate and weather probably should avoid threads that discuss either.
    tell me something, Maine....we know from the study of ice core samples that the temperatures of the globe are cyclical.....we also know that we are nearing that point of the cycle which would be the peak of "warm"......at some point in the relatively near future we may begin our plunge to the ice age, or it may get slightly warmer before that happens......(by relatively near future, I mean somewhere in the next couple thousand years)......

    we also know that when you look at records of the last few hundred years it has gotten warmer......and if you look at records of the last ten years, it has gotten colder......

    now, given all that, why is YOUR prediction of the next thousand years any more accurate than some one else's?........

    does the record of the last ten years show the warming trend is over?....no......does the record of the last hundred years show the warming trend is going to continue?......no......but, does the record of the last 450,000 years show that we are near the turning point?......yes.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    tell me something, Maine....we know from the study of ice core samples that the temperatures of the globe are cyclical.....we also know that we are nearing that point of the cycle which would be the peak of "warm"......at some point in the relatively near future we may begin our plunge to the ice age, or it may get slightly warmer before that happens......(by relatively near future, I mean somewhere in the next couple thousand years)......

    we also know that when you look at records of the last few hundred years it has gotten warmer......and if you look at records of the last ten years, it has gotten colder......

    now, given all that, why is YOUR prediction of the next thousand years any more accurate than some one else's?........

    does the record of the last ten years show the warming trend is over?....no......does the record of the last hundred years show the warming trend is going to continue?......no......but, does the record of the last 450,000 years show that we are near the turning point?......yes.......


    Great post

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    Quote Originally Posted by semi liberal girl View Post


    Great post
    Yes, it makes me wonder why they didn't just wait?
    The first expedition to Greenland was mounted in 1977. It failed, as did several more. Not until 1992 was the P-38 found--buried under 260 feet of ice. They had to melt it, and cut the plane up to pull it out.
    http://blogs.abcnews.com/scienceands...cier-girl.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Classact View Post
    Yes, it makes me wonder why they didn't just wait?


    http://blogs.abcnews.com/scienceands...cier-girl.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by ranger View Post
    Those who can't discuss things with people without acting like a spoiled little 2nd grader should spend their time elsewhere. Like in timeout or something.
    true, those who can't debate but only come to this or any thread and cut a quick insult should keep quiet. people like that feel superior intellectually by running into a thread and quickly yelling:

    you're wrong stupidhead, i'm right

    and then that is all the 'proof' offered. obviously such people have nothing of value to offer to anyone.

    the natural global tempature changes science has never been disproven. i find it intellectually dishonest for those who follow al snore to, on the one hand say....we are coming out of our last ice age....ice ages are cyclical....
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    Quote Originally Posted by semi liberal girl View Post
    31,000 scientists signed a petition saying global warming does not exist - but you and Al know more then they do.
    so...do you think they make up the vast majority of scientists and climatologists studying the issue?

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