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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver View Post
    Right...its church's like the Trinity United Church of Christ that have the "progressives"......
    The Progressives that can listen to how the US government kills blacks with HIV....
    The Progressives that can learn to scream "God damn America".....
    The Progressives that will vote for Obama....
    No knuckledraggers in this religion...only knuckleheads
    Well, you sure showed me. I don't know though, maybe if I actually gave two sh*ts about the Trinity United Church of Christ and the people who attend it then your comments might hold some water. I don't know, maybe.
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    Science wants to explain things and understand why they happen. Creationists want to use science to justify their own causes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diuretic View Post
    Why comment on the Democratic Party if you're a Republican?
    Uh, because the Democrat Party has lots of power over our lives? Last time I checked, the Catholic Church wasn't going to pass our laws, seat judges, or perhaps put a Pope in the White House.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver View Post
    Right...its church's like the Trinity United Church of Christ that have the "progressives"......
    The Progressives that can listen to how the US government kills blacks with HIV....
    The Progressives that can learn to scream "God damn America".....
    The Progressives that will vote for Obama....
    No knuckledraggers in this religion...only knuckleheads

    I have to ask......knuckleheads are better than knuckledraggers? There's a difference?

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    Vatican: "No girls allowed!"
    Modern culture: "But women are fully capable. I mean, in modern culture women run huge, multinational corporations, hold high-powered positions in government and even operate motor vehicles! Why not give them a chance?"
    Vatican: "No girls allowed!"
    Modern culture: "Have it your way dude. Don't call us, we'll call you."
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer
    Science wants to explain things and understand why they happen. Creationists want to use science to justify their own causes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hagbard Celine View Post
    Well, you sure showed me. I don't know though, maybe if I actually gave two sh*ts about the Trinity United Church of Christ and the people who attend it then your comments might hold some water. I don't know, maybe.
    You might not give a shit about the UCC church and the un-American, bigoted, hate-spewing rants they preach, but you sure have an opinion about the Catholics being knuckledraggers for following a tenet they've had for over 2000 years or whatever......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver View Post
    You might not give a shit about the UCC church and the un-American, bigoted, hate-spewing rants they preach, but you sure have an opinion about the Catholics being knuckledraggers for following a tenet they've had for over 2000 years or whatever......
    No girls allowed! What a righteous "tenet."
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer
    Science wants to explain things and understand why they happen. Creationists want to use science to justify their own causes.

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    I guess they can follow any silly rules they want.....

    its not quite like a Church teaching their followers that the US government is killing blacks with HIV virus or humiliating Hillary Clinton from the pulpit because she happens to be white but then this kind of hate doesn't seem to bother you as much as silly Catholic rules for the priesthood.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Uh, because the Democrat Party has lots of power over our lives? Last time I checked, the Catholic Church wasn't going to pass our laws, seat judges, or perhaps put a Pope in the White House.
    Sometimes the analogy has to be sagely accepted rather than analysed

    I could come up with more but that would be tiresome.
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    Someone told me once that this stems from St Paul. I'm not sure about that. I was also told by an ex-missionary I knew well (he quit to get married) that it was that pastoral work couldn't be done if the priest were married. I dunno about that, other Christian denominations seem to manage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diuretic View Post
    Someone told me once that this stems from St Paul. I'm not sure about that. I was also told by an ex-missionary I knew well (he quit to get married) that it was that pastoral work couldn't be done if the priest were married. I dunno about that, other Christian denominations seem to manage.
    There is a biblical basis for it. Paul does say that it is best not to marry if you are going to do the Lord's work efffectively. But he goes on to talk about what to do if you feel you must marry, so...

    I have long thought that no-marriage rule is the reason there are so many gay priests. I have also thought that it exists because the church saves an incredible amount of money this way. No need to provide housing, benefits, etc., to wives and children.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    There is a biblical basis for it. Paul does say that it is best not to marry if you are going to do the Lord's work efffectively. But he goes on to talk about what to do if you feel you must marry, so...

    I have long thought that no-marriage rule is the reason there are so many gay priests. I have also thought that it exists because the church saves an incredible amount of money this way. No need to provide housing, benefits, etc., to wives and children.
    I like your pragmatic thinking Abbey.

    It's good, if you're going to develop a money-saving policy in your employment conditions, to have a scriptural authority to back it up. I bet GM is trawling through the New Testament to see if the UAW gets a mention
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    Quote Originally Posted by diuretic View Post
    I like your pragmatic thinking Abbey.

    It's good, if you're going to develop a money-saving policy in your employment conditions, to have a scriptural authority to back it up. I bet GM is trawling through the New Testament to see if the UAW gets a mention
    If by "New Testament" here, you mean GM's "New Testament of Offshoring Manufacturing", you may be right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    If by "New Testament" here, you mean GM's "New Testament of Offshoring Manufacturing", you may be right.
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