Worst president

[April15]

Damn, you truly are drinking the koolaid. Carter was a fucking village idiot put in charge of one of two superpowers and by the time he was done we were the worldwide laughing stock. We're still hearing about decisions he made 30 fucking years later. How fucked up is that?

And what Bush has done to the integrity and world standing of the USA is not a joke? Not to mention the policies implemented that have harmed nations and people.

[hjmick]

But none of these evils is Nixon’s worst moment. He is responsible for the single most destructive act in the history of the American presidency, an act that has destroyed more wealth and worsened more lives than anything before or since. In 1971, as Wikipedia puts it, he “eradicated the last remnants of the gold standard.” This created the inflation crises of the 1970’s and affects us with “moderate” inflation to this day. The high interest rates that Republicans blame Carter for are actually the result of Nixon’s policies."

He was just finishing what Franklin D. Roosevelt started in 1933.

I'm curious as to how anyone today could think the gold standard would work. The total amount of gold mined is valued at about $4 trillion, using $1,000 an ounce as a base, while the total amount of currency in circulation is estimated to be almost $8 trillion.

[midcan5]

I'm curious as to how anyone today could think the gold standard would work. The total amount of gold mined is valued at about $4 trillion, using $1,000 an ounce as a base, while the total amount of currency in circulation is estimated to be almost $8 trillion.

Psychological question. I am puzzled too but economics makes little sense sometimes, the point is the so called experts floundered for a bit while real life behavior gave them some ideas. FDR was probably our greatest contemporary president, his work keep fascism away, and laid the groundwork for a society where destitution was less a fear. I still view SS as one of the greatest things we have done for each other.

[Hagbard Celine]

Psychological question. I am puzzled too but economics makes little sense sometimes, the point is the so called experts floundered for a bit while real life behavior gave them some ideas. FDR was probably our greatest contemporary president, his work keep fascism away, and laid the groundwork for a society where destitution was less a fear. I still view SS as one of the greatest things we have done for each other.

With the success of SS, it makes you wonder why opposition to universal healthcare is so widespread.

[ranger]

And what Bush has done to the integrity and world standing of the USA is not a joke? Not to mention the policies implemented that have harmed nations and people.

What Bush has done is make the world scared of us. That's not a bad thing. Where is it written that the world has to love us. Because I tell you, the world only loves us when we do good things for them. Usually good things for them is bad things for us.

[April15]

What Bush has done is make the world scared of us. That's not a bad thing. Where is it written that the world has to love us. Because I tell you, the world only loves us when we do good things for them. Usually good things for them is bad things for us.

The nations of the world can see that we are stretched so thin militarily that fear is the last thing they are thinking. They are wondering what happened to the noble nation that was the lighthouse for the oppressed and holder of moral high ground.
Ranger, these are the reasons we are laughed at. We have given over to unethical, power mad leaders. Leaders whose vision of the future ends at their nose.

[Classact]

Often when debates discuss worst presidents Carter is mentioned, since I was of voting age starting with Nixon .... I always found the Reagan Administration to be the worst till now. (Bush Jr hands down is the worst.) The reason I labeled Reagan the worst was he started the decline of the middle class and reinvented the imperial, aka military, presidency. But Reagan didn't seem to grasp his flag waving would lead to the hubris that made war too easy for some. He did realize quickly his tax policies were voodoo economics. It was the background ideology that grew out of the decline of Russia, Granada, and a Gulf War with a foolish dictator that made so many in power so naive. So it is with interest I read other people's take on this same period and who is the worst. Full disclosure: I voted for Nixon.

http://myrhaf.blogspot.com/2007/05/w...n-history.html

"At home Nixon imposed wage and price controls, a purely socialistic intervention in the economy that bumbling Jimmy Carter never could have attempted. He created the Environmental Protection Agency and Occupational Health and Safety Administration, two assaults on liberty that to this day create anti-capitalist regulations that violate rights and hamper the economy. He expanded the welfare state, creating Supplemental Security Income and indexing Social Security to inflation. He created the Drug Enforcement Agency, probably the biggest move in America’s idiotic war on drugs.

But none of these evils is Nixon’s worst moment. He is responsible for the single most destructive act in the history of the American presidency, an act that has destroyed more wealth and worsened more lives than anything before or since. In 1971, as Wikipedia puts it, he “eradicated the last remnants of the gold standard.” This created the inflation crises of the 1970’s and affects us with “moderate” inflation to this day. The high interest rates that Republicans blame Carter for are actually the result of Nixon’s policies."

While I disagree with your conclusion I agree that the gold standard is a good thing that the founders emphasised http://www.svpvril.com/OACL.html for details go to the sub link here to read details http://www.svpvril.com/OACL.html#StolenGold

I think the worst president was JFK, he started his administration with an invasion of Cuba that he then abandoned leaving the warriors to be killed and captured to spend decades in Castro's dungeons leaving Cuba in the hands of a dictator. Then because he was so liberal like Obama he was seen weak to the USSR and held direct talks that resulted with USSR concluding that JFK was a weak moron so they put nukes on Cuba. Oh, but that wasn't enough... when President Eisenhower left office he told Kennedy not to add one man to the force in Vietnam but dumb ass Kennedy did the opposite and caused the Vietnam War with the millions of casualties. Now that's a fucked up president!

[ranger]

The nations of the world can see that we are stretched so thin militarily that fear is the last thing they are thinking. They are wondering what happened to the noble nation that was the lighthouse for the oppressed and holder of moral high ground.

We have numerous units that have not even seen combat so the stretched thin is an illusion. And they do fear us because even "stretched" like we are, we still have more combat power available then most other countries in the world. Add to that, most of our forces have experienced combat, making them better then those who haven't.

Ranger, these are the reasons we are laughed at. We have given over to unethical, power mad leaders. Leaders whose vision of the future ends at their nose.

Whatever. In case you haven't noticed, the world is full of tinpot dictators who only respect strength. These are the same people that are screaming the loudest (well right behind the democrats) at our supposed occupations of places. Why are they upset? Because we got there before them (how dare we!).

[midcan5]

What Bush has done is make the world scared of us. That's not a bad thing. Where is it written that the world has to love us. Because I tell you, the world only loves us when we do good things for them. Usually good things for them is bad things for us.

LOL - now we are the school yard bullies, very Christian sentiment, in this so called Christian nation.

[Psychoblues]

gwb, no doubt about it. John McCain will be the next worst, don't you know?

[actsnoblemartin]

Im not convinced mccain is as bad as bush, and im not convinced obama is the Saviour either, neither has my vote yet

gwb, no doubt about it. John McCain will be the next worst, don't you know?

[Psychoblues]

You ain't seen flip flopping 'till you've seen McCain. Let the debates commence!!!!!!!!!!

[actsnoblemartin]

i have seen some flip flopping from mccain, take illegal immigration, he thinks he's gonna convince me, he is sheriff arpaio, or he is gonna get tough on illegal immigration

HIS PARTY, and the other party, both benefit from it, and dont give a shit, about the illegals or us.

You ain't seen flip flopping 'till you've seen McCain. Let the debates commence!!!!!!!!!!

[actsnoblemartin]

dont get me wrong, i may not be an obama enthusiast, but like i said to my liberal best friend in scotland, i am un-decided, and will give obama a fair shake at this point

You ain't seen flip flopping 'till you've seen McCain. Let the debates commence!!!!!!!!!!

[Psychoblues]

Shake it and bake it, martin. I'm glad to know you are paying attention!!!!!!!!