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    Default do you think msnbc is a far left media network or is bill oreilly wrong about msnbc

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    Yes. No.
    “… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by actsnoblemartin View Post
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    No network which gives Chris Matthews regular airtime can be considered a leftwing network.
    Building a better America by hammering the Right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by actsnoblemartin View Post
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    Right wingers have been pissing and moaning about "left-wing bias" in the media for years. But you have to read between the lines, to decipher what they're really saying.

    Translation: "We're getting our asses kicked every election. But it's not because we put up bad candidates. (We have outstanding candidates, like Senator Craig from Idaho.)

    "No, we are losing because the media is full of left wingers and socialists and they poison the minds of the voters against our candidates."


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    Quote Originally Posted by actsnoblemartin View Post
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    It's owned by the establishment. Of course it's right wing. Don't sweat it Martin, there's no msm left wing media in America, none in my country either.
    "Unbloodybreakable" DCI Gene Hunt, 2008

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    I never hear any oposing views on MSNBC. only one sided rants. at least fox lets both sides be heard. so I deleted MSNBC on the menu. I can't stand that fuckin' Olbermann. judge, jury and executioner. a demonic looking bastard to boot. "channel erased>enter"

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    Quote Originally Posted by namvet View Post
    I never hear any oposing views on MSNBC. only one sided rants. at least fox lets both sides be heard. so I deleted MSNBC on the menu. I can't stand that fuckin' Olbermann. judge, jury and executioner. a demonic looking bastard to boot. "channel erased>enter"
    That's absolutely right. For the most part, stories are presented slanted from a left-leaning or left-friendly perspective on most of the other networks. Whereas Fox at least TRIES to present both sides. IMO Fox presents a number of talking heads who aren't afraid to call their peers (from other networks) on their crap.
    “… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by actsnoblemartin View Post
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    MSNBC pretends to be fair and balanced but they too are NOT a liberal source of information. If they were, they would be talking about impeachment every day. Keith Olbermann is the most liberal guy on tv, and even he has Exxon as an advertiser. So even he isn't going to really expose them like they need to be exposed. Look at how the "liberal" media talked about Monica for 2 years straight. A liberal media wouldn't have done that. Or would a liberal media talk about Michelle Obama for a week and not Cindy McCain? Hardball is not "liberal".

    If they are liberal, why did they have this guy on air? David Shuster suggested on air that the Clinton family had "pimped out'' daughter Chelsea in its campaign for Sen. Hillary Clinton's presidential nomination.

    Who's picking the stories they run? Station managers and station owners. They are loyal Bushies now, just like the Justice Department has been politicized, so has the media. They de-regulated the media and bought up every station. Now, even the "liberal" stations, are not as liberal as they should be.

    Hear this! The media should be liberal. Liberal in a way where they are the rats of politics. I want them to expose both Democrats and Republicans for their corruption. But lately, they have been protecting the conservatives.



    Who owns MSNBC?

    GENERAL ELECTRIC --(donated 1.1 million to GW Bush for his 2000 election campaign)

    Television Holdings:
    * NBC: includes 13 stations, 28% of US households.
    * NBC Network News: The Today Show, Nightly News with Tom Brokaw, Meet the Press, Dateline NBC, NBC News at Sunrise.
    * CNBC business television; MSNBC 24-hour cable and Internet news service (co-owned by NBC and Microsoft); Court TV (co-owned with Time Warner), Bravo (50%), A&E (25%), History Channel (25%).
    The "MS" in MSNBC
    means microsoft
    The same Microsoft that donated 2.4 million to get GW bush elected.

    Other Holdings:
    * GE Consumer Electronics.
    * GE Power Systems: produces turbines for nuclear reactors and power plants.
    * GE Plastics: produces military hardware and nuclear power equipment.
    * GE Transportation Systems: runs diesel and electric trains.

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    Mythbuster confuses "democrat" with Liberal, and "republican" with Conservative.
    “… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.

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    How can anyone render an opinion about MSNBC when no one watches it?

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    MSM is corporate owned and operated, it would be impossible for it to be left leaning, and after the loss of the fairness doctrine they don't even have to pretend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    MSM is corporate owned and operated, it would be impossible for it to be left leaning, and after the loss of the fairness doctrine they don't even have to pretend.
    Do you think these people arguing this point know it and are playing dumb or are they really buying Rove's montra that "the media is libera"?

    You can show them exactly how the media was bought up by big corporations and politicized. You can show them examples of how they pick and choose what stories to tell. Sure they might report that the war is going badly, but then they don't report that no politicial progress is being made.

    So the right wingers can say the media is liberal because they don't report on the good news that comes out of Iraq, but they fail to realize that the news is also not telling us the most important things, like we are going bankrupt, the military is breaking, dozens of high level generals and admirals are resigning and against the Bush administrations plans to attack iran, or that Iraqi's really want us to leave, or how Iraq was all about oil.

    they may have announced once that Bush's intelligence may have abeen flawed, or not quite 100% exactly.......

    but that is far from saying he lied us into a war. If they were liberal, they wouldn't sugar coat it like they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
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    s corporate owned and operated, it would be impossible for it to be left leaning.
    That's a logical fallacy.
    “… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    That's a logical fallacy.
    You are a logical fallacy.

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