Despite Success Obama Would Still Oppose Surge

[retiredman]

still waiting...

lying sack of shit.

[Yurt]

it must be ok now to call people liar over and over, good to know

[retiredman]

it must be ok now to call people liar over and over, good to know

Hobbit suggested that I like to "make up statistics and fabricate evidence".

Are you suggesting that such a statement is NOT a lie? And if so, do YOU care to provide me with one single solitary statistic or evidence that I have "fabricated"?

I'll wait, "counselor".

[Yurt]

i merely suggest that those who claim outrage, perhaps faux outrage, over being called a liar and exclaim that being called such is the height of insults, have no room to talk when they, themselves, routinely call others liars as if the word liar is a crumb that falls off the everyday cake....

[retiredman]

i merely suggest that those who claim outrage, perhaps faux outrage, over being called a liar and exclaim that being called such is the height of insults, have no room to talk when they, themselves, routinely call others liars as if the word liar is a crumb that falls off the everyday cake....

when people who do not lie are called liars, they have every right to complain.

I ask you again...is hobbit telling the truth when he makes that claim or is he lying? If he is telling the truth, prove it. If he is NOT telling the truth, then he IS a LIAR and I have every right to call him such.

[Yurt]

when people who do not lie are called liars, they have every right to complain.

I ask you again...is hobbit telling the truth when he makes that claim or is he lying? If he is telling the truth, prove it. If he is NOT telling the truth, then he IS a LIAR and I have every right to call him such.

contrary to your claims that i am an advocate for members of this board, i do not speak for hobbit....it is his claim, not mine. oh wait, that would make your claims that i act as the board advocate.....what?

[retiredman]

contrary to your claims that i am an advocate for members of this board, i do not speak for hobbit....it is his claim, not mine. oh wait, that would make your claims that i act as the board advocate.....what?

you jumped on my claim that he is a liar pretty fast. Why would you DO that if you knew or had good reason to believe that I was accurate in my claim? Are you suggesting that someone who hates being FALSELY accused of lying cannot, therefore, ACCURATELY accuse someone of doing so?

Or do you just like to follow me around and nitpick my posts like some gay obsessive little geek for no real reason?

[Yurt]

you jumped on my claim that he is a liar pretty fast. Why would you DO that if you knew or had good reason to believe that I was accurate in my claim? Are you suggesting that someone who hates being FALSELY accused of lying cannot, therefore, ACCURATELY accuse someone of doing so?

Or do you just like to follow me around and nitpick my posts like some gay obsessive little geek for no real reason?

bless your heart, you sound like a lawyer....

you should be proud.

[retiredman]

bless your heart, you sound like a lawyer....

you should be proud.

why thank you!

[Kathianne]

Rather than lock this thread or moving to the Cage; Yurt, MFM, and RSR have been banned from posting on it.

If posters feel compelled to call others liars, question others purpose of existence, etc., feel free to go to the cage or pm insults to one another. The whole 'liar', 'lawyer', 'inability to debate', ie., baiting, needs to stop on threads others find of interest.

Questions or comments in pm's are fine, to myself or other staff members.

[Gaffer]

Rather than lock this thread or moving to the Cage; Yurt, MFM, and RSR have been banned from posting on it.

If posters feel compelled to call others liars, question others purpose of existence, etc., feel free to go to the cage or pm insults to one another. The whole 'liar', 'lawyer', 'inability to debate', ie., baiting, needs to stop on threads others find of interest.

Questions or comments in pm's are fine, to myself or other staff members.

Thank you.