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    Default Schiavo Debate Relived In Valley

    Deja Vu all over again!!!!!!!!




    Source: Fresno Bee

    Three years after the fight over Terri Schiavo pulled the nation into the end-of-life debate, the case of a comatose Fresno County woman is reopening old wounds -- and could prove even more inflammatory.

    The family of Janet Rivera, 46, wants to keep her alive in a Fresno hospital. The county, acting as her legal guardian, wants the issue decided in court.

    Among the questions her situation has raised: Should a government agency be able to overrule family members and withhold life support when the patient's wishes are unknown?

    The Schiavo family has taken an interest in this case. The Terri Schindler Schiavo Foundation helped find a lawyer to represent the Rivera family, said Schiavo's brother, Bobby Schindler............

    More: http://www.fresnobee.com/263/story/755203.html

    Will anyone go to jail? Will this reach the SCOTUS? Will this solve anything?

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    oh god, not again.

    the media loves a scandal or a good story.

    Bottom line: husband should decide

    everyone else should shut the fuck up and butt out.

    and i am pro-life

    the end

    what say you good sir?

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    Deja Vu all over again!!!!!!!!




    Source: Fresno Bee

    Three years after the fight over Terri Schiavo pulled the nation into the end-of-life debate, the case of a comatose Fresno County woman is reopening old wounds -- and could prove even more inflammatory.

    The family of Janet Rivera, 46, wants to keep her alive in a Fresno hospital. The county, acting as her legal guardian, wants the issue decided in court.

    Among the questions her situation has raised: Should a government agency be able to overrule family members and withhold life support when the patient's wishes are unknown?

    The Schiavo family has taken an interest in this case. The Terri Schindler Schiavo Foundation helped find a lawyer to represent the Rivera family, said Schiavo's brother, Bobby Schindler............

    More: http://www.fresnobee.com/263/story/755203.html

    Will anyone go to jail? Will this reach the SCOTUS? Will this solve anything?

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    I think it's a shame that cameras were not allowed into the hospital to see how Terri Schiavo was really doing. I also think her parents should have been able to take over the care for their daughter.

    There is also the question as to how she ended up in the shape she was in. Didn't the parents think the husband had strangled her?
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    I agree with what you say, marteen. It is a personal and PRIVATE decision to be made by her family. Period. Full Stop.


    Quote Originally Posted by actsnoblemartin View Post
    oh god, not again.

    the media loves a scandal or a good story.

    Bottom line: husband should decide

    everyone else should shut the fuck up and butt out.

    and i am pro-life

    the end

    what say you good sir?

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    private is the key word, this isnt really about schiavo.

    this is about the government staying out of the personal decisions of families

    and i wish it would end h.i.p.p.a. its a disaster and a joke

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    I agree with what you say, marteen. It is a personal and PRIVATE decision to be made by her family. Period. Full Stop.

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    Psycho, Martin, did either of you take the time to RTFA? It's not a fight between the family and the husband. It's a fight between the family and the COUNTY. The family wants her kept alive. The county, which has taken custody of the girl, wants to unplug her. It's shaky when, amidst shady circumstances like in the Shiavo case, the husband is allowed to keep her locked up and then pull the plug, but it's still not a bad ruling, in the end. Here, a government is holding the life of an innocent civilian in its hands, and taking the family to court to overturn their wishes. Whether the family wants to sustain or unplug the person is irrelevant. What is relevant is that the f-ing GOVERNMENT is taking the power of life and death as part of its duties.
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    what?

    really?

    in that case, the government should NOT be involved and the family should make the decision.

    I have a hard time with this, because while, the husband is legally first chooser, if i were the husband, i would allow the family to keep her alive, i think that is morally the right thing to do

    thanks for clearing that up

    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbit View Post
    Psycho, Martin, did either of you take the time to RTFA? It's not a fight between the family and the husband. It's a fight between the family and the COUNTY. The family wants her kept alive. The county, which has taken custody of the girl, wants to unplug her. It's shaky when, amidst shady circumstances like in the Shiavo case, the husband is allowed to keep her locked up and then pull the plug, but it's still not a bad ruling, in the end. Here, a government is holding the life of an innocent civilian in its hands, and taking the family to court to overturn their wishes. Whether the family wants to sustain or unplug the person is irrelevant. What is relevant is that the f-ing GOVERNMENT is taking the power of life and death as part of its duties.

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    Yes, hibbit, I RTFA. Attempting to get a credible conversation going about it is not proving so productive however, your response notwithstanding.



    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbit View Post
    Psycho, Martin, did either of you take the time to RTFA? It's not a fight between the family and the husband. It's a fight between the family and the COUNTY. The family wants her kept alive. The county, which has taken custody of the girl, wants to unplug her. It's shaky when, amidst shady circumstances like in the Shiavo case, the husband is allowed to keep her locked up and then pull the plug, but it's still not a bad ruling, in the end. Here, a government is holding the life of an innocent civilian in its hands, and taking the family to court to overturn their wishes. Whether the family wants to sustain or unplug the person is irrelevant. What is relevant is that the f-ing GOVERNMENT is taking the power of life and death as part of its duties.
    The gov't takes the power of life and death as it's duties all the time, hibbit. They've been doing it for as long as there has been a government and I don't think it is going to change in this century. Surprise me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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