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    I fond the movie extremely interesting. The monster part came from historical scripts claiming that Spartan's enemies had a proclivity to collect human freaks and exotic animals for entertainment. Also, the description of the battle and its portrayal in the movie seemed fairly accurate to me.

    Best line in the whole thing:

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    Athenians or Spartans?
    Errr, yeah, Spartans. Me no think good now.
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    Well not having seen the movie I can't say what I think of it except what I have seen in the trailers. And I will wait for it to come on the movie channels as nothing about what I have seen inspires me to pay to see it.

    I do remember from reading up on it that the persians were defeated by the athanian fleet which kept them from landing troops at Thermopoly. And I know there were another 1200 Athanians and other greeks that took part in the battle. Not to mention the slaves that the Spartans kept who made up a portion of their army and whose revolts the Spartans were constantly putting down which is how they got their combat training in between wars. The Spartans were extremely cruel which is why the other greeks hated and feared them. Also they were religious fanatics.

    The persians did sack the better part of the greek cities after the battle but were eventually defeated and driving back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    Well not having seen the movie I can't say what I think of it except what I have seen in the trailers. And I will wait for it to come on the movie channels as nothing about what I have seen inspires me to pay to see it.

    I do remember from reading up on it that the persians were defeated by the athanian fleet which kept them from landing troops at Thermopoly. And I know there were another 1200 Athanians and other greeks that took part in the battle. Not to mention the slaves that the Spartans kept who made up a portion of their army and whose revolts the Spartans were constantly putting down which is how they got their combat training in between wars. The Spartans were extremely cruel which is why the other greeks hated and feared them. Also they were religious fanatics.

    The persians did sack the better part of the greek cities after the battle but were eventually defeated and driving back.
    The Spartans were extremely nationalistic in a sense to Sparta. They didnt like anyone not from Sparta and felt that all non-Spartans (especially Athenians) were weak in contrast. Those that helped fight in that battle along side the Spartans we're accepted by the Spartans as their brothers in arms. Thos that would risk their lives and fight to the death to protect their homeland were seen as the ultimate Greeks in Spartan eyes.

    As for the battle, yes the Athenians stopped the Persians by the sea but the Persians had a land army of millions (ridiculously huge number in those days). So the goal was to have the sea forces land and surround Greece. Athens held up its part and the Spartans held up theres.
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    Yes, the Spartans were militaristic, but they were honest.

    The Athenians formed the Delian league to protect the smaller city states from attack. The problem with the Delian League was that, sometimes, membership was compulsory. You either joined, or the Athenians would invade. Plus the city states in the Delian League were required to pay a yearly tribute to Athens or supply troops. In most cases, the city states just wrote a check.

    The money was supposed to be used to help pay for the defense of the city states, but it wasn't always used for that purpose. The Parthenon in Athens is one such example of the Athenians' misappropriation of funds. It was built almost entirely with funds the Athenians received from the other city states of the Delian League.

    The Spartans also had a defensive league of their own, the Peloponnesian League (from which the Peloponnesian Wars got their name). Their arrangement was not as coercive as the Athenians, nor did they misuse funds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarlMarx View Post
    Yes, the Spartans were militaristic, but they were honest.

    The Athenians formed the Delian league to protect the smaller city states from attack. The problem with the Delian League was that, sometimes, membership was compulsory. You either joined, or the Athenians would invade. Plus the city states in the Delian League were required to pay a yearly tribute to Athens or supply troops. In most cases, the city states just wrote a check.

    The money was supposed to be used to help pay for the defense of the city states, but it wasn't always used for that purpose. The Parthenon in Athens is one such example of the Athenians' misappropriation of funds. It was built almost entirely with funds the Athenians received from the other city states of the Delian League.

    The Spartans also had a defensive league of their own, the Peloponnesian League (from which the Peloponnesian Wars got their name). Their arrangement was not as coercive as the Athenians, nor did they misuse funds.

    One could say that our government has it roots in Greek theory of government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSM View Post
    One could say that our government has it roots in Greek theory of government.
    Either our government or the Mafia, but then, it's often difficult to tell the difference.
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