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    Default Bin Laden's former driver guilty in terror trial

    Another terrorist has had his trial, and was convicted of some of the charges

    He could get life. The poor little terrorist cried as the decison was made


    Bin Laden's former driver guilty in terror trial

    GUANTANAMO BAY NAVAL BASE, Cuba (CNN) -- A U.S. military jury found Osama Bin Laden's former driver guilty of five counts of material support to a terror organization in the September 11, 2001, attacks.

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/06/...ial/index.html


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    how horrid, is this how you really want your justice system to work? With kangaroo courts? Disgusting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    how horrid, is this how you really want your justice system to work? With kangaroo courts? Disgusting.
    He is not entitled to US Constitutional rights

    I am glad the way he was tried. He is a fucking terrorist and should get the death penalty


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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    how horrid, is this how you really want your justice system to work? With kangaroo courts? Disgusting.
    I see nothing unfair with the process since Congress wrote the law to overcome the SCOTUS problem. I much prefer it to the suggestions of Sharia law in both UK and Canada.

    Kangaroo courts as you suggest are not that easy to come by, though a fine example can be found in Canada's "Human Rights" Courts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    I see nothing unfair with the process since Congress wrote the law to overcome the SCOTUS problem. I much prefer it to the suggestions of Sharia law in both UK and Canada.

    Kangaroo courts as you suggest are not that easy to come by, though a fine example can be found in Canada's "Human Rights" Courts.
    I loved it when the big bad terrorist cried like a baby when he heard the verdict

    He will spend the rest of his life in a cell

    I hope he is kept in isolation until he goes to meet Allah


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    He is not entitled to US Constitutional rights

    I am glad the way he was tried. He is a fucking terrorist and should get the death penalty
    exactly... The have no rights...bit who cates they're terrorists, they don't deserve rights, right? Sickenning
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    exactly... The have no rights...bit who cates they're terrorists, they don't deserve rights, right? Sickenning
    You are right

    They have no US Constitutional rights and are tried by the military. That is what happens during a war


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    except this is a war like no other n will never end...but sure...who cares about rights and libberties and freedoms...we don't need em right?

    It's amazes and disturbs me that you have no problems with this system that defies international law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    except this is a war like no other n will never end...but sure...who cares about rights and libberties and freedoms...we don't need em right?

    It's amazes and disturbs me that you have no problems with this system that defies international law.
    What rights do terrorists have?

    Many who have been released have ben picked up again on the battlefield

    Some ended up being homicide bombers and killed innocent people

    How many people have to die before you people "get it"?


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    What rights do terrorists have?
    Erm...i don't know...maybe basic human rights?..erm the right to a fair trail...the right to have there trail herd by equal peers...the right to hear all of the evidence that is being used to prosecute them...the right not to be tortured, to name but a few...but guess what, the driver did not receive any such rights....

    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Many who have been released have been picked up again on the battlefield.
    Some ended up being homicide bombers and killed innocent people.
    How many people have to die before you people "get it"?
    And what does that have to do with having a free and fair trail? I'm not saying let them all go, i'm saying put them in a free and fair trial, with the basic human rights that we all have, if they are found not guilty they are as free as you and i, but if they are found guilty then they can be punished and we can still have the dignity of being better than them...you do want that right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    Erm...i don't know...maybe basic human rights?..erm the right to a fair trail...the right to have there trail herd by equal peers...the right to hear all of the evidence that is being used to prosecute them...the right not to be tortured, to name but a few...but guess what, the driver did not receive any such rights....



    And what does that have to do with having a free and fair trail? I'm not saying let them all go, i'm saying put them in a free and fair trial, with the basic human rights that we all have, if they are found not guilty they are as free as you and i, but if they are found guilty then they can be punished and we can still have the dignity of being better than them...you do want that right?
    What rights do you think they should have beyond what Hamdan received?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    What rights do you think they should have beyond what Hamdan received?
    Nothing special... just the right to a fair trail...the right to have there trail herd by equal peers...the right to hear all of the evidence that is being used to prosecute them...the right not to be tortured.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    Nothing special... just the right to a fair trail...the right to have there trail herd by equal peers...the right to hear all of the evidence that is being used to prosecute them...the right not to be tortured.
    Again, what rights do you see as missing?


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    Them all.

    Right to a fair trail- Generalized by the lack of the following.

    the right to have there trail herd by equal peers- The jury was made up of US military officers, not equal peers.

    the right to hear all of the evidence that is being used to prosecute them- The prosecution was given the right to tell the jury 'secret evidence'...not too fair is it?

    the right not to be tortured- The man is claiming that he was tortured, the US says he wasn;t...but the man was not held under the protections of the geniva convenction, so legaly he couldn't be tortured.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    Them all.

    Right to a fair trail- Generalized by the lack of the following.

    the right to have there trail herd by equal peers- The jury was made up of US military officers, not equal peers.

    the right to hear all of the evidence that is being used to prosecute them- The prosecution was given the right to tell the jury 'secret evidence'...not too fair is it?

    the right not to be tortured- The man is claiming that he was tortured, the US says he wasn;t...but the man was not held under the protections of the geniva convenction, so legaly he couldn't be tortured.

    how are those trials of the freedom fighter going in london....

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