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    Default Why Is The Election So Close?

    Months ago when Obama defeated hillary for the nomination, the left were so cocky they were going to stroll into the White House without breaking a sweat

    Obama had about 320 Electoral College votes, and double digit lead in the polls

    Now, Obama's lead is gone, and he has a only 275 Electoral College votes based on current polls

    What happened to the messiah?


    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...mccain/?map=10


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    Racism and the power of propaganda over people who don't have the time to investigate phony deceptive information. How many still believe Iraq had something to do with 911? Lots. How many think Obama is Muslim? Lots. Sad that conservative MSM is so slanted.


    "According to a July New York Times/CBS News poll, when whites were asked whether they would be willing to vote for a black candidate, 5 percent confessed that they would not. That’s not so bad, right? But wait. The pollsters then rephrased the question to get a more accurate portrait of the sentiment. They asked the same whites if most of the people they knew would vote for a black candidate. Nineteen percent said that those they knew would not. Depending on how many people they know and how well they know them, this universe of voters could be substantial. That’s bad."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/09/op...Blow%20&st=cse

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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    Racism and the power of propaganda over people who don't have the time to investigate phony deceptive information. How many still believe Iraq had something to do with 911? Lots. How many think Obama is Muslim? Lots. Sad that conservative MSM is so slanted.


    "According to a July New York Times/CBS News poll, when whites were asked whether they would be willing to vote for a black candidate, 5 percent confessed that they would not. That’s not so bad, right? But wait. The pollsters then rephrased the question to get a more accurate portrait of the sentiment. They asked the same whites if most of the people they knew would vote for a black candidate. Nineteen percent said that those they knew would not. Depending on how many people they know and how well they know them, this universe of voters could be substantial. That’s bad."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/09/op...Blow%20&st=cse

    Ah, a lib played the race card on very first reply. Why is it when a black lib loses it is racism, but when a black liberal wins the voters made the right call?

    When 95% of blacks say they are voting for the black liberal, the left has no problem with their racism?

    Perahps the election is close because voters are seeing Obama is not the new type of politican the left billed him as. They see him for what he really is. A tax and spend liberal with no experience, and no new ideas


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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    Racism and the power of propaganda over people who don't have the time to investigate phony deceptive information. How many still believe Iraq had something to do with 911? Lots. How many think Obama is Muslim? Lots. Sad that conservative MSM is so slanted.


    "According to a July New York Times/CBS News poll, when whites were asked whether they would be willing to vote for a black candidate, 5 percent confessed that they would not. That’s not so bad, right? But wait. The pollsters then rephrased the question to get a more accurate portrait of the sentiment. They asked the same whites if most of the people they knew would vote for a black candidate. Nineteen percent said that those they knew would not. Depending on how many people they know and how well they know them, this universe of voters could be substantial. That’s bad."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/09/op...Blow%20&st=cse
    I'd vote for a black President who wasn't a flaming Marxist..too bad you all put in the boy wonder..I bet you all are wishing for the Shrillery by now..
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself."
    Tullius Cicero (106-43 BC)

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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Ah, a lib played the race card on very first reply. Why is it when a black lib loses it is racism, but when a black liberal wins the voters made the right call?

    When 95% of blacks say they are voting for the black liberal, the left has no problem with their racism?

    Perahps the election is close because voters are seeing Obama is not the new type of politican the left billed him as. They see him for what he really is. A tax and spend liberal with no experience, and no new ideas
    We are not measuring levels of racism here, we are recognizing it for what it is. Sorry these things confuse you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    We are not measuring levels of racism here, we are recognizing it for what it is. Sorry these things confuse you.
    So it boils down it if you do not vote for Obama you are a racist according to the Obamabots

    Forget about his racist rants in his books

    Forget about his terrorist friends

    Forget about his racist pastor

    Forget how he wants to raise taxes

    Forget how he wants to increase spending

    Forget how he wants government run healthcare

    Forget how he wants amnesty for illegals

    Forget how he is soft on terrorism


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Months ago when Obama defeated hillary for the nomination, the left were so cocky they were going to stroll into the White House without breaking a sweat

    Obama had about 320 Electoral College votes, and double digit lead in the polls

    Now, Obama's lead is gone, and he has a only 275 Electoral College votes based on current polls

    What happened to the messiah?
    Basically two things:

    1.) More and more people are coming to realize that his rhetoric about "Change we can believe in", "Yes We Can", etc., are just that: rhetoric, with no substance.

    2.) People are coming to see that he is just another liberal, more extreme than most, who wants to raise taxes, expand government control, expand the Nanny State, and misread or ignore foreign policy issues. Every time someone this liberal has run for the Presidency, he has lost in a landslide, unless his opponent has been a quasi-liberal in turn or has major problems of his own (See McGovern, Carter, Mondale, Dukakis).

    It's actually not surprising that Obama isn't leading. What's surprising, is that he isn't losing by a similar landslide... yet. But it's still three months before the election... there's plenty of time for voters to find out more about him. His only hope is that they also find out more and more about the quasi-liberal-ness of his opponent. But in this case, Obama is so much more extreme than his opponent, that even a direct comparison bodes no good for him.
    "The social contract exists so that everyone doesn’t have to squat in the dust holding a spear to protect his woman and his meat all day every day. It does not exist so that the government can take your spear, your meat, and your woman because it knows better what to do with them." - Instapundit.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
    Basically two things:

    1.) More and more people are coming to realize that his rhetoric about "Change we can believe in", "Yes We Can", etc., are just that: rhetoric, with no substance.

    2.) People are coming to see that he is just another liberal, more extreme than most, who wants to raise taxes, expand government control, expand the Nanny State, and misread or ignore foreign policy issues. Every time someone this liberal has run for the Presidency, he has lost in a landslide, unless his opponent has been a quasi-liberal in turn or has major problems of his own (See McGovern, Carter, Mondale, Dukakis).

    It's actually not surprising that Obama isn't leading. What's surprising, is that he isn't losing by a similar landslide... yet. But it's still three months before the election... there's plenty of time for voters to find out more about him. His only hope is that they also find out more and more about the quasi-liberal-ness of his opponent. But in this case, Obama is so much more extreme than his opponent, that even a direct comparison bodes no good for him.
    Bingo

    People are seeing Obama is out of his league. He is a raw rookie who is indecisive and nothing more then a blue nosed arrogant liberal


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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    We are not measuring levels of racism here, we are recognizing it for what it is. Sorry these things confuse you.
    We are measuring levels of racism. The racism of Rev Wright, Michelle O and of Barry himself. There is plenty of racism in this campaign, plenty of anti-white racism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theHawk View Post
    We are measuring levels of racism. The racism of Rev Wright, Michelle O and of Barry himself. There is plenty of racism in this campaign, plenty of anti-white racism.


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    Quote Originally Posted by stephanie View Post
    I'd vote for a black President who wasn't a flaming Marxist..too bad you all put in the boy wonder..I bet you all are wishing for the Shrillery by now..
    you don't even know what the word "Marxist" means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    you don't even know what the word "Marxist" means.
    No comment on your guy's falling poll numbers? You were so giddy a few weeks ago when Obama had over 320 Electoral College votes - how do you feel now?


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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    Racism and the power of propaganda over people who don't have the time to investigate phony deceptive information. How many still believe Iraq had something to do with 911? Lots. How many think Obama is Muslim? Lots. Sad that conservative MSM is so slanted.


    "According to a July New York Times/CBS News poll, when whites were asked whether they would be willing to vote for a black candidate, 5 percent confessed that they would not. That’s not so bad, right? But wait. The pollsters then rephrased the question to get a more accurate portrait of the sentiment. They asked the same whites if most of the people they knew would vote for a black candidate. Nineteen percent said that those they knew would not. Depending on how many people they know and how well they know them, this universe of voters could be substantial. That’s bad."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/09/op...Blow%20&st=cse
    Hmm, we attribute worse behavior to others than to ourselves? Known phenomenon in polling, "Are you in better financial condition than 1 year ago?" Inevitably the majority are 'yes.' Ask, "Are the people you know in better financial condition than a year ago?" That would be a no, Alex.

    Same thing here, they didn't get the answer they wanted, so let the polled through racism assumption onto others. Sheesh.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Hmm, we attribute worse behavior to others than to ourselves? Known phenomenon in polling, "Are you in better financial condition than 1 year ago?" Inevitably the majority are 'yes.' Ask, "Are the people you know in better financial condition than a year ago?" That would be a no, Alex.

    Same thing here, they didn't get the answer they wanted, so they polled through racism by assumption onto others. Sheesh.
    exactly, you can make a poll say just about anything you want. trying to drum up some guilt votes. " But..I don't wanna be racist...."
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