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    Default Attorney General tells Lies and fails to uphold his promises

    It comes as absolutely no surprise to me.


    “During the hearing on his nomination as attorney general, Alberto Gonzales said he understood the difference between the job he held - President Bush's in-house lawyer - and the job he wanted, which was to represent all Americans as their chief law enforcement officer and a key defender of the Constitution. Two years later, it is obvious Mr. Gonzales does not have a clue about the difference.

    He has never stopped being consigliere to Mr. Bush’s imperial presidency. If anyone, outside Mr. Bush's rapidly shrinking circle of enablers, still had doubts about that, the events of last week should have erased them.

    First, there was Mr. Gonzales's lame op-ed article in USA Today trying to defend the obviously politically motivated firing of eight United States attorneys, which he dismissed as an "overblown personnel matter." Then his inspector general exposed the way the Federal Bureau of Investigation has been abusing yet another unnecessary new power that Mr. Gonzales helped wring out of the Republican-dominated Congress in the name of fighting terrorism.

    The F.B.I. has been using powers it obtained under the Patriot Act to get financial, business and telephone records of Americans by issuing tens of thousands of "national security letters," a euphemism for warrants that are issued without any judicial review or avenue of appeal. The administration said that, as with many powers it has arrogated since the 9/11 attacks, this radical change was essential to fast and nimble antiterrorism efforts, and it promised to police the use of the letters carefully.”


    More: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/11/op...in&oref=slogin

    As with most of the bush appointees, they have no qualms with lying in the face of pointed questioning by those seeking information and leading to confirmation or not.

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    I wonder if you were this incensed when the Clinton administration fired all of the attorneys for political purposes.

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    I don't recall any of that!!!! What attorneys? What Political purposes? What in the name of the American Christ are you talking about? Please link it or at least reference it!!!!!!!!


    Quote Originally Posted by avatar4321 View Post
    I wonder if you were this incensed when the Clinton administration fired all of the attorneys for political purposes.
    I'm not incensed. In fact, I'm not even surprised. What gave you that impression?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    I don't recall any of that!!!! What attorneys? What Political purposes? What in the name of the American Christ are you talking about? Please link it or at least reference it!!!!!!!!




    I'm not incensed. In fact, I'm not even surprised. What gave you that impression?
    Thge 93+ Republican US Attorneys that Clinton canned because of political affiliation.

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    yeap he did that and then Bush did that too.

    These attorneys were Bush appointees which were then fired for not prosicuting false voter fraud cases by Dems and For prosicuting Rs like Cunningham for real life fraud.

    Carol Lamm is the attorney they fired and she got Cunningham and was about to go after Foggio when they canned her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    yeap he did that and then Bush did that too.

    These attorneys were Bush appointees which were then fired for not prosicuting false voter fraud cases by Dems and For prosicuting Rs like Cunningham for real life fraud.

    Carol Lamm is the attorney they fired and she got Cunningham and was about to go after Foggio when they canned her.
    I didn't see you guys throwing fits when Clinton did it but you do it when President Bush does, can we say Hipocracy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nevadamedic View Post
    I didn't see you guys throwing fits when Clinton did it but you do it when President Bush does, can we say Hipocracy?

    He did not do what Bush did , when Bush first fired all the attorneys I did not say a word.

    Its when he fired his own appointees for not obsturcting justice like he wanted them to that I complained along with any person who cares about Justice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    He did not do what Bush did , when Bush first fired all the attorneys I did not say a word.

    Its when he fired his own appointees for not obsturcting justice like he wanted them to that I complained along with any person who cares about Justice.
    Actually what Clinton did was 10 times worse. Typically with Clinton if you went against him you would end up dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nevadamedic View Post
    Actually what Clinton did was 10 times worse. Typically with Clinton if you went against him you would end up dead.
    He was the most investigated presidetn in history and they found nothing to get him for so they tried to make a big case about him lying to save his marriage.

    You have no proof of any of the silly claims do you?

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    Continuation from another thread- off topic

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    He was the most investigated presidetn in history and they found nothing to get him for so they tried to make a big case about him lying to save his marriage.

    You have no proof of any of the silly claims do you?
    Lessee - he was barred from practice for 5 years. He lied under oath...WhiteWater mean anything to you?
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    So what, who cares?

    They got shitcanned, doesn't matter what he shitcanned them for, its the man's perogative.

    Nothing will come of this, the man will derve out his term and then ride off into the sunset, no underlings will be prosecuted for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    He was the most investigated presidetn in history and they found nothing to get him for so they tried to make a big case about him lying to save his marriage.

    You have no proof of any of the silly claims do you?
    One of his top advisors who just happened to be having an affair with Hillary for years(Her law partner). He gave his resignation to President Clinton then he is found dead. The Attorney General had the cause of death ruled as a suicide and the investigation cut. However the FBI agents who were on scene said there was no way it was a suicide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    I don't recall any of that!!!! What attorneys? What Political purposes? What in the name of the American Christ are you talking about? Please link it or at least reference it!!!!!!!!
    Here you go:

    ...At the time, Jay Stephens, then U.S. Attorney in the District of Columbia, was investigating then Ways and Means Chairman Dan Rostenkowski, and was "within 30 days" of making a decision on an indictment. Mr. Rostenkowski, who was shepherding the Clinton's economic program through Congress, eventually went to jail on mail fraud charges and was later pardoned by Mr. Clinton.

    Also at the time, allegations concerning some of the Clintons' Whitewater dealings were coming to a head. By dismissing all 93 U.S. Attorneys at once, the Clintons conveniently cleared the decks to appoint "Friend of Bill" Paula Casey as the U.S. Attorney for Little Rock. Ms. Casey never did bring any big Whitewater indictments, and she rejected information from another FOB, David Hale, on the business practices of the Arkansas elite including Mr. Clinton. When it comes to "politicizing" Justice, in short, the Bush White House is full of amateurs compared to the Clintons.

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    Though, in fairness, Casey's predecessor was also reluctant to do anything about Whitewater.
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