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    Guess that explains the desperation of some around here the past few days:

    http://zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1541

    Released: August 20, 2008

    Reuters/Zogby Poll: McCain Makes a Move, Takes 5-Point Lead Over Obama

    Obama loses ground among Dems, women, Catholics & even younger voters

    UTICA, New York – As Russian tanks rolled into the Republic of Georgia and the presidential candidates met over the weekend in the first joint issues forum of the fall campaign, the latest polling includes drama almost as compelling - Republican John McCain has taken a five-point lead over Democrat Barack Obama in the race for President, the latest Reuters/Zogby telephone survey shows.

    McCain leads Obama by a 46% to 41% margin.

    And McCain not only enjoys a five-point edge in a two-way race against Obama, but also in a four-way contest including liberal independent candidate Ralph Nader and Libertarian Bob Barr, the poll reveals. In the four-way contest, McCain wins 44% support, Obama 39%, Barr 3% and Nader 2%.

    This latest Reuters/Zogby poll is a dramatic reversal from the identical survey taken last month – in the July 9-13 Reuters/Zogby survey, Obama led McCain, 47% to 40%. In the four-way race last month, Obama held a 10-point lead over McCain.


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    Obama's average in all the polls is now down to 1.9%

    It has been by all accounts a 10 point swing in the polls.

    Ok, now it is time for the Obama supporters to fall back on their #1 talking point and play the race card


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    The liberal media is now in full attack mode over Obama's drop in the polls

    LAT Blames Obama Poll Drop On 'Attacks' By McCain
    By Dave Pierre
    August 19, 2008 - 22:54 ET

    The Los Angeles Times is still fighting for their man, Barack Obama. Last June, when their man's poll numbers looked groovy, the Times proudly trumpeted their presidential poll results with a just-the-facts headline, "Obama holds 12-point lead over McCain, poll finds." But now the paper's candidate of choice is in trouble. A new Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll shows John McCain and Barack Obama in a statistical dead heat, with Obama ahead 45% to 43%, within the three point margin of error.

    So how does the Times frame the results of their new poll? "Barack Obama's image suffers amid John McCain attacks, poll finds." Apparently, the Times has a hard time acknowledging that people are simply learning more about the candidates, and more are simply deciding that Obama is not their guy. The Times would rather blame Obama's receding lead on "attacks" by McCain.

    The Times also conveniently ignores the fact that the DNC and Obama have engaged in "attacks" of their own, including the labeling of Senator McCain as "Exxon John" and equating a McCain presidency to "Bush's third term."

    A double standard in headlines? Absolutely.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/dave-pi...attacks-mccain


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    Uh-oh, the Obamaphiles aren't going to be happy.

    We should fully expect Deranged Liberal Syndrome to kick in and we'll see them screaming about how its all because of "attacks" from the "right-wing nuts".
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    Quote Originally Posted by theHawk View Post
    Uh-oh, the Obamaphiles aren't going to be happy.

    We should fully expect Deranged Liberal Syndrome to kick in and we'll see them screaming about how its all because of "attacks" from the "right-wing nuts".
    I love the fact Obama is now losing the Electoral College count. Now we do have about 75 days to go - but the trend is looking good to prevent Dem control of the government

    MFM must be beside himself and spitting nails
    Last edited by red states rule; 08-20-2008 at 09:44 AM.


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    All these drops in the polls is probably putting more pressure on Berry to pick Hillary for VP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crin63 View Post
    All these drops in the polls is probably putting more pressure on Berry to pick Hillary for VP.
    Never happen

    If Obama did that he would have to hire a food taster, and have someone run in front of his limo checking for landmines


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    That's weird, Rush never mentioned he had a parrot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MtnBiker View Post
    That's weird, Rush never mentioned he had a parrot.
    Not a parrot - pointing out what Obama better do

    He could end up taking a midnight trip to Ft Marcy Park with Hillary as VP


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Not a parrot - pointing out what Obama better do

    He could end up taking a midnight trip to Ft Marcy Park with Hillary as VP

    Parrot;
    One who imitates the words or actions of another
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/parroting

    You want to tell me that Rush did not say almost the exact same thing yesterday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MtnBiker View Post
    Parrot;


    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/parroting

    You want to tell me that Rush did not say almost the exact same thing yesterday?
    Would not know

    Did not listen to Rush yesterday. had some health issues, and took a sick cat to the vet

    If he did, he was right

    To many people who work with the Clinton's have serious accidents


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    Right now, RCP says there are 'no toss up states':

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...mccain/?map=10

    Barack Obama 264 John McCain 274

    270 electoral votes needed to win...
    Last edited by Kathianne; 08-20-2008 at 11:55 AM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Right now, RCP says there are 'no toss up states':

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...mccain/?map=10

    Barack Obama 264 John McCain 274
    Obamabots are fleeing to their shrinks office for treatment and refilling their med perscriptions after hearing about this


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Right now, RCP says there are 'no toss up states':

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...mccain/?map=10

    Barack Obama 264 John McCain 274

    270 electoral votes needed to win...
    Sorry to spoil the party, but I have a hunch that's RCP's screen for people who want them to REJECT the idea of toss-up states. So RCP looked at each state, including those where the difference is less than 1% (a statistical tie), and call them one way or the other anyway.

    RCP maintains a different page where they DO identify some very-close states as tossups. It shows Obama ahead among states where the margin is enough to not be a statistical tie.

    See it at http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...ama_vs_mccain/ .

    The good news? In November, that last "poll" will have NO tossup states. Even if the difference is so tiny as to be Floriduh-like, EVERY state will be called one way or another... just like the poll that Kathianne shows above.
    Last edited by Little-Acorn; 08-20-2008 at 12:13 PM.
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