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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    I would rather support the troops by bringing them home.
    Bush apologists support the troops by sending more of them into harms way, where some end up like this:
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5ed_1173302948

    Thank you Dubya. I am sure the families thank you as well.
    Actually, if you want to support the troops, may I suggest a recurring donation to the USO?

    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    Right-wing bullsh*t is always entertaining.
    Please. Can you specify and refute the alleged bullshit? Inquiring minds want to know.

    Quote Originally Posted by Roomy View Post
    I think the troops should be allowed to blast the fuck out of the terrorists or brought home, at the moment they are targets.
    Recon by fire and suppression by grid square? Awesome.
    I'm Phil -- 40 something heterosexual white male, fairly self sufficient, great with my kids, wed 29 years to the same woman, and I firmly believe that ones actions have logical consequences. How much more out the box can you get nowadays? -- MSgt of Marines (ret)

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    I would rather support the troops by bringing them home.
    Bush apologists support the troops by sending more of them into harms way, where some end up like this:
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5ed_1173302948

    Thank you Dubya. I am sure the families thank you as well.

    why do you want to bring home the troops?....dont' you want to empower the troops and let them do thier job?

    "I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is."

    ~Albert Camus

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    Supporting the troops is relatuve. As they are all individuals and would see different things as support.
    That is probably one of the dumbest things you've said so far.
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by manu1959 View Post
    why do you want to bring home the troops?....dont' you want to empower the troops and let them do thier job?
    Oh Hell no. Short-sighted liberals don't even pretend to have any notion of wanting a win. That doesn't support their rhetoric for the past 3 years.

    What they don't realize is they're just setting themsleves up to repeat history, and we all know WHO in the long run took the blame for Vietnam, don't we? That would be the party that has occupied the White House 12 of the last 39 years.
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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    Why? Sounds pretty true to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    Why? Sounds pretty true to me.
    Troop morale is pretty-much fueled by the same things. Good chow. Mail from home. A bed to sleep in out of the rain and/or cold. Hot water.

    Above all, know the cause they serve is just. You take a 20-years-old, give him a loaded weapon and the discretion to take life, in most cases having to react in a split second's time.

    Then you have these squirelly jackasses claiming to support them, but ensuring they know you think what they are doing is not just. Doubt causes hesitation and hesitation could mean death.

    There is NOTHING relative about THAT. It is the same for anyone who has laced up a pair of boots and sent the bolt home on a live round.
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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    and if a soldier wanted out of a war/that war to end he would consider people trying to make that happen supporting him. It's still all relative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    and if a soldier wanted out of a war/that war to end he would consider people trying to make that happen supporting him. It's still all relative.
    I take back saying there's hope for you. Not so long as your answer to everything is "it's all relative."

    Simply put, no it ain't. That's another one of your dismissive tactics in lieu of a legitimate argument, and in reference to this specific topic, absolute bullshit.
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    Why? Sounds pretty true to me.
    What, specifically, was it you thought sounded true? When you don't quote or provide pointers to whom you are addressing then you look like you are talking to yourself in spite of the duct tape.

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    and if a soldier wanted out of a war/that war to end he would consider people trying to make that happen supporting him. It's still all relative.
    Any servicemember in the field wants out, right, fucking, now. Whether you like or dislike his cause isn't relative to his desire to get the fuck back to the world in one piece with his team.

    The only thing fucking relative is nepotism and Arkansas cousins.
    I'm Phil -- 40 something heterosexual white male, fairly self sufficient, great with my kids, wed 29 years to the same woman, and I firmly believe that ones actions have logical consequences. How much more out the box can you get nowadays? -- MSgt of Marines (ret)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pegwinn View Post
    What, specifically, was it you thought sounded true? When you don't quote or provide pointers to whom you are addressing then you look like you are talking to yourself in spite of the duct tape
    and if you could follow a debate you could tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    and if you could follow a debate you could tell.
    So far I have seen no debate from you.

    Failure to answer a direct question via evasion is a symptom of being a political hack. Seek therapy.
    I'm Phil -- 40 something heterosexual white male, fairly self sufficient, great with my kids, wed 29 years to the same woman, and I firmly believe that ones actions have logical consequences. How much more out the box can you get nowadays? -- MSgt of Marines (ret)

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    Whatever man. Do you even have a point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    Whatever man. Do you even have a point.
    Actually I do. Can you guess what it is?
    I'm Phil -- 40 something heterosexual white male, fairly self sufficient, great with my kids, wed 29 years to the same woman, and I firmly believe that ones actions have logical consequences. How much more out the box can you get nowadays? -- MSgt of Marines (ret)

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    You disagree with my point that supporting the troops is relative because the individual troops would consider different things as support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    You disagree with my point that supporting the troops is relative because the individual troops would consider different things as support.
    Good. Now we are getting somewhere.

    Do you support the troops? Why or why not?
    I'm Phil -- 40 something heterosexual white male, fairly self sufficient, great with my kids, wed 29 years to the same woman, and I firmly believe that ones actions have logical consequences. How much more out the box can you get nowadays? -- MSgt of Marines (ret)

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