Scholar: 'Jesus Tomb' makers mistaken

[glockmail]

I'm not sure that we have...I'm interested in this physical evidence you claim exists, and what you think it proves.

You wouldn't believe God existed if you were standing on His rock.

[Missileman]

You wouldn't believe God existed if you were standing on His rock.

Is this an admission that there is no physical evidence?

[glockmail]

Is this an admission that there is no physical evidence?

Not exactly. Do you think the Earth was created by chance?

[Missileman]

Not exactly. Do you think the Earth was created by chance?

I don't think the earth was "created" at all. Is your standard going to be so low that you're going to claim the existence of matter is proof of God?

[glockmail]

I don't think the earth was "created" at all. Is your standard going to be so low that you're going to claim the existence of matter is proof of God?

So the earth and molecules simply just happened by chance. Is that your position?

[Missileman]

So the earth and molecules simply just happened by chance. Is that your position?

It's at least as plausible as some invisible deity whipping them up by magic.

[glockmail]

It's at least as plausible as some invisible deity whipping them up by magic.

Actually you are incorrect. The entity either exists or not, statistically a 50% chance. For a mere molecule to be created by chance, the chances are 1/ a string of nines. For the earth or life, the chances are infinitesimally low.

[Missileman]

Actually you are incorrect. The entity either exists or not, statistically a 50% chance. For a mere molecule to be created by chance, the chances are 1/ a string of nines. For the earth or life, the chances are infinitesimally low.

And you are incorrect, matter occurred through chance or through creation, same odds...50/50.

[Nuc]

And you are incorrect, matter occurred through chance or through creation, same odds...50/50.

Does this mean that matter occuring through chance or by being spewed out of the anus of a galactic kangaroo is also 50/50? Any two possiblilities 50/50? C'mon.

[typomaniac]

Does this mean that matter occuring through chance or by being spewed out of the anus of a galactic kangaroo is also 50/50?

It might explain where Uranus came from...

[Missileman]

Does this mean that matter occuring through chance or by being spewed out of the anus of a galactic kangaroo is also 50/50? Any two possiblilities 50/50? C'mon.

I'd say that the odds of the latter or the Christian God creating everything are identical...that is one of the qualities of 50/50. It works just like true or false, off or on, or black and white.

Perhaps you might explain why the odds between chance and creation should be anything other than 50/50.

[Nuc]

I'd say that the odds of the latter or the Christian God creating everything are identical...that is one of the qualities of 50/50. It works just like true or false, off or on, or black and white.

Perhaps you might explain why the odds between chance and creation should be anything other than 50/50.

It's cute to say that given any two possibilities there is a 50/50 chance. However in reality it doesn't happen like that. There is not really a 50/50 chance that Hillary Clinton or Paris Hilton will be elected POTUS. There is not really a 50/50 chance that the Green Bay Packers will be defeated by your kids grade school flag football team.

Regarding creation vs. chance. Chance is something we can observe every day. Creation is something we can observe everyday only if we believe in it.

[Missileman]

It's cute to say that given any two possibilities there is a 50/50 chance. However in reality it doesn't happen like that. There is not really a 50/50 chance that Hillary Clinton or Paris Hilton will be elected POTUS. There is not really a 50/50 chance that the Green Bay Packers will be defeated by your kids grade school flag football team.

Regarding creation vs. chance. Chance is something we can observe every day. Creation is something we can observe everyday only if we believe in it.

So in your estimation, what are the odds in regards to chance/creation?

[glockmail]

And you are incorrect, matter occurred through chance or through creation, same odds...50/50.

Matter maybe, but we are talking about organized, complex systems. Like molecules, planets, and living organisms.

Its like walking down the street and finding 1000 coins balanced on their sides. From your perspective, that could happen by chance. I would say that somebody set up the coins that way.

[glockmail]

It's cute to say that given any two possibilities there is a 50/50 chance. However in reality it doesn't happen like that. There is not really a 50/50 chance that Hillary Clinton or Paris Hilton will be elected POTUS. There is not really a 50/50 chance that the Green Bay Packers will be defeated by your kids grade school flag football team.

Regarding creation vs. chance. Chance is something we can observe every day. Creation is something we can observe everyday only if we believe in it.

you were going great until the last sentence. Creation is observed by non believers, and God exists regardless of human beliefs.