Poll - Which damaged America more?

[YamiB.]

Dems in the Hosue can do whatever they want whenever the want

Yet they have done NOTHING. They have only kept a few of their promises they made in 2006

Dems said they would end the war in Iraq, lower gas prices, work with the minority, work a 5 day week, cut pork, "drain the swamp of corruption", and reduce spending

Yet in the House none of those promsies have been kept. The Dems need only a simple majority in the House, so Pelsoi can blame nobody but her own failed and decisive leadership

So you want quotes of Dems supporting our troops. Are you really that uninformed? OK, here you go

It doesn't matter if they need just need a majority in the house if they can't get it through the Senate or past the President.

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-...=f:publ081.110

This Act was sponsored by Reid and takes aim at lessening corruption and making earmarks more transparent so that pork can be combated.

Attempts have been made for a bill that would scale back the US involvement in the Iraq War. It's been sitting in committee, but I can't really find information if that is due to the Democrats or the Republicans on the committee.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:S433:

As for the videos both of Kerry's statements are fine. It is well known that the first one was a botched joke against Bush. This explanation makes much more sense when the clip is put into context where he was bashing Bush. If you watch the whole of the second clip that you provided then it is clear that Kerry does not make a judgment on the actions of the troops and is instead criticizing the fact that US troops are doing it instead of Iraqi troops taking over.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...110102513.html

The third clip is obviously a gross exaggeration on the part of Durbin and he apologized for it as he should have.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...062101654.html

The Democrat is wrong in the fourth clip for making a decision on the case without waiting for the investigation to finish. But he is correct in saying that being part of the military does not make individuals immune from being punished for their actions. He does not seem to be criticizing the troops as a whole, only those that are involved in this case. In the case that he is referring to where multiple civilians were killed I think there seems to be strong evidence of some wrongdoing.

[midcan5]

The damage 911 did to America was incalculable. It showed that a nation that once prided itself on restraint could easily allow fear to control their actions.

It demonstrated that a once proud nation could forget its fundamental principle not to attack and kill unless threatened.

It tarnished forever our reputation for sound judgment and honorable action.

It made jingoism and blind nationalism real in a nation that once fought these very things.

It reduced our treatment of others to justifiable savagery. It labeled them and allowed us to kill them.

It divided the sensible from the war mongers and showed clearly the hatred xenophobia causes. It caused the worst foreign affair action in our nation's history, the destruction of a sovereign nation.


"We first kill people with our minds, before we kill them with weapons. Whatever the conflict, the enemy is always the destroyer. We're on God's side; they're barbaric. We're good, they're evil. War gives us a feeling of moral clarity that we lack at other times." Sam Keen

http://www.spiritualityandpractice.c...ks.php?id=8401

[manu1959]

The damage 911 did to America was incalculable. It showed that a nation that once prided itself on restraint could easily allow fear to control their actions.

It demonstrated that a once proud nation could forget its fundamental principle not to attack and kill unless threatened.

It tarnished forever our reputation for sound judgment and honorable action.

It made jingoism and blind nationalism real in a nation that once fought these very things.

It reduced our treatment of others to justifiable savagery. It labeled them and allowed us to kill them.

It divided the sensible from the war mongers and showed clearly the hatred xenophobia causes. It caused the worst foreign affair action in our nation's history, the destruction of a sovereign nation.


"We first kill people with our minds, before we kill them with weapons. Whatever the conflict, the enemy is always the destroyer. We're on God's side; they're barbaric. We're good, they're evil. War gives us a feeling of moral clarity that we lack at other times." Sam Keen

http://www.spiritualityandpractice.c...ks.php?id=8401

so what was the proper response to us assests being attacked for the 7th time in as many years.....

[red states rule]

The damage 911 did to America was incalculable. It showed that a nation that once prided itself on restraint could easily allow fear to control their actions.

It demonstrated that a once proud nation could forget its fundamental principle not to attack and kill unless threatened.

It tarnished forever our reputation for sound judgment and honorable action.

It made jingoism and blind nationalism real in a nation that once fought these very things.

It reduced our treatment of others to justifiable savagery. It labeled them and allowed us to kill them.

It divided the sensible from the war mongers and showed clearly the hatred xenophobia causes. It caused the worst foreign affair action in our nation's history, the destruction of a sovereign nation.


"We first kill people with our minds, before we kill them with weapons. Whatever the conflict, the enemy is always the destroyer. We're on God's side; they're barbaric. We're good, they're evil. War gives us a feeling of moral clarity that we lack at other times." Sam Keen

http://www.spiritualityandpractice.c...ks.php?id=8401

Yes midcan, 9-11 made most liberals feel sorry for the terrorists and has caused liberals to offer them sympathy, understanding, and support for their war against America. At the same time, made libs express their hate for America and the military more openly then usual

[April15]

They try the obvious. Attempt to defend Pelosi and Reid. I know it is hard, but you are an expert at pulling talking points out of your ass

There is nothing to defend! They did their job and the president has failed more often than a one legged man in a butt kicking contest.

[red states rule]

There is nothing to defend! They did their job and the president has failed more often than a one legged man in a butt kicking contest.

Have you noticed the approval rating for Congress is about 10 point LOWER then pres Bush's?

[REDWHITEBLUE2]

and if Obama wins, and has the Reid/Pelosi Congress then they will pass the "Fairness Doctrine" and do all they can to snuff out all opposing voices - leaving us with the liberal media for most of our information

Obama can make Keith Olbermann his Press Sec AND make MSNBC as the offical netowrk of the Obama administration

Well we all ready have the Clinton NEWS NETWORK

[red states rule]

Well we all ready have the Clinton NEWS NETWORK

and MSNBC where it is all Obama all the time

[midcan5]

so what was the proper response to us assests being attacked for the 7th time in as many years.....

Well that depends, Reagan cut and run after Beirut, Bush Sr left the Kurds get massacred, did attacking Iraq made anymore sense. And notice how badly the Iraq invasion screwed up Afghanistan where the real efforts against the terrorists should have taken place. You fight terrorists as you fight crime, as we fought the KKK and the mafia. You infiltrate and destroy, attacking a nation that had nothing to with 911 made zero sense to those with sense.



A vote for McCain/Palin is a vote against the fundamental principle of America, the right of the individual to lead their life privately without the government interfering.

[red states rule]

Well that depends, Reagan cut and run after Beirut, Bush Sr left the Kurds get massacred, did attacking Iraq made anymore sense. And notice how badly the Iraq invasion screwed up Afghanistan where the real efforts against the terrorists should have taken place. You fight terrorists as you fight crime, as we fought the KKK and the mafia. You infiltrate and destroy, attacking a nation that had nothing to with 911 made zero sense to those with sense.



A vote for McCain/Palin is a vote against the fundamental principle of America, the right of the individual to lead their life privately without the government interfering.

[manu1959]

Well that depends, Reagan cut and run after Beirut, Bush Sr left the Kurds get massacred, did attacking Iraq made anymore sense. And notice how badly the Iraq invasion screwed up Afghanistan where the real efforts against the terrorists should have taken place. You fight terrorists as you fight crime, as we fought the KKK and the mafia. You infiltrate and destroy, attacking a nation that had nothing to with 911 made zero sense to those with sense.

A vote for McCain/Palin is a vote against the fundamental principle of America, the right of the individual to lead their life privately without the government interfering.

yesi am aware of history....clinton cut and ran in rawanda and somalia.....

but the question was....so what would the proper response have been to 911.....

[Immanuel]

Well that depends, Reagan cut and run after Beirut, Bush Sr left the Kurds get massacred, did attacking Iraq made anymore sense. And notice how badly the Iraq invasion screwed up Afghanistan where the real efforts against the terrorists should have taken place. You fight terrorists as you fight crime, as we fought the KKK and the mafia. You infiltrate and destroy, attacking a nation that had nothing to with 911 made zero sense to those with sense.



A vote for McCain/Palin is a vote against the fundamental principle of America, the right of the individual to lead their life privately without the government interfering.

I DO NOT support the war in Iraq and have not since the day Saddam was captured, however, to be realistic, if we had not gone into Iraq and put all our troops and focus on Afghanistan, then bin Ladin would be in Iraq or some place other than Afghanistan. He's gone to the safest place he can find at the moment. If that place were not the best place for him, he'd be someplace else. If there were no U.S. troops looking for bin Ladin in Iraq, then bin Ladin would be in Iraq. If all our troops were looking in Afghanistan, bin Ladin would be in Iraq.

Immie