Refreshing the homosexuality debate

[Powerman]

Well if you're going to post in the thread try to make some logical debate instead of sounding like a 4 year old downs syndrome girl from 9th century China.

[jimnyc]

In other words, like most heterosexuals you have a natural aversion to acts of gay sex. Repugnance isn't and never was a logical justification for saying that something is immoral.

I think my prior post speaks to logic. We were created the way we are for reasons.

[Powerman]

I think my prior post speaks to logic. We were created the way we are for reasons.

What if homosexuals were created the way they are for reasons too?

I've yet to see any logical reasoning that leads me to believe that homosexuality is a choice. I think they're just wired that way. Homosexuality is found in hundreds of others species in nature. It's not as abnormal as people think.

[CockySOB]

Would you politely exit this debate. I can handle this myself without you making my side look stupid.

Thanks

LN, don't you know that this poster doesn't need the opinion of a lesbian to screw his theories to hell and back? LOL!

[jimnyc]

What if homosexuals were created the way they are for reasons too?

I've yet to see any logical reasoning that leads me to believe that homosexuality is a choice. I think they're just wired that way. Homosexuality is found in hundreds of others species in nature. It's not as abnormal as people think.

Well, I can't really say you're wrong because I'm certainly no expert, and don't want to be on this subject. And although I despise their actions, I am only against seeing it with my own eyes, or giving in to gay marriages, but have no issue with civil unions.

[LiberalNation]

Well if you're going to post in the thread try to make some logical debate instead of sounding like a 4 year old downs syndrome girl from 9th century China.

No I'm going to post my opinion and that is my opinion. Not making "your" side look bad, I only represent myself not a side.

[LiberalNation]

LN, don't you know that this poster doesn't need the opinion of a lesbian to screw his theories to hell and back? LOL!

LMAO, Cocky.

[Powerman]

Well, I can't really say you're wrong because I'm certainly no expert, and don't want to be on this subject. And although I despise their actions, I am only against seeing it with my own eyes, or giving in to gay marriages, but have no issue with civil unions.

Translation: "I'm not even remotely interested in the truth and have already made up my mind based on my natural aversion to gay sex"

[Missileman]

I disagree.

There is a choice, on which way to go through life, that our education and parenting assist with - but I don't think it's like we're all bisexual and flip a coin for our decision. It's not as much that we choose to be heterosexual but rather we choose NOT to go the homosexual route.

Ask anyone who is 100% heterosexual if they could, on a whim, choose to engage in homosexual sex and I'll wager that you'll get an almost unanimous "NO!". The revulsion that you and I and most heterosexuals feel towards the thought is, not only natural I believe, but also very strong evidence that homosexuality is NOT a choice. Homosexuals aren't merely heterosexuals who choose to have same gender sex, in most cases and IMO. There has to be something physically different about them since they appear to lack this natural revulsion towards homosexuality.

[jimnyc]

Translation: "I'm not even remotely interested in the truth and have already made up my mind based on my natural aversion to gay sex"

Why does whether or not it was a choice matter? If I found out it was genetic right now, I would still find it disgusting. Lots of people are born with disease, that doesn't mean we shouldn't help them. What's so wrong with me finding it disgusting, and not agreeing with the actions? Do you really think I should just say "Ok, they can't help it, it's not so bad after all"?

[Powerman]

Ask anyone who is 100% heterosexual if they could, on a whim, choose to engage in homosexual sex and I'll wager that you'll get an almost unanimous "NO!". The revulsion that you and I and most heterosexuals feel towards the thought is, not only natural I believe, but also very strong evidence that homosexuality is NOT a choice. Homosexuals aren't merely heterosexuals who choose to have same gender sex, in most cases and IMO. There has to be something physically different about them since they appear to lack this natural revulsion towards homosexuality.

Agree with this

I'm not saying I agree with this. I'm commanding you all to agree with this.

[jimnyc]

Ask anyone who is 100% heterosexual if they could, on a whim, choose to engage in homosexual sex and I'll wager that you'll get an almost unanimous "NO!". The revulsion that you and I and most heterosexuals feel towards the thought is, not only natural I believe, but also very strong evidence that homosexuality is NOT a choice. Homosexuals aren't merely heterosexuals who choose to have same gender sex, in most cases and IMO. There has to be something physically different about them since they appear to lack this natural revulsion towards homosexuality.

Yes, and in my opinion, that physical difference is some sort of mental defect. While I won't go out and protest, or do anything to stop them, I certainly am not going to praise homosexuality.

[Powerman]

Why does whether or not it was a choice matter? If I found out it was genetic right now, I would still find it disgusting. Lots of people are born with disease, that doesn't mean we shouldn't help them. What's so wrong with me finding it disgusting, and not agreeing with the actions? Do you really think I should just say "Ok, they can't help it, it's not so bad after all"?

Nothing is wrong with you finding it disgusting. Where you are wrong is thinking that it's immoral just because it's disgusting. Child birth is disgusting to me. Does that make it immoral? Of course not. If you witnessed most surgical procedures, you'd think they were disgusting as well. Does that make them immoral?

And why does it matter if it's a choice? Ever heard of free will? If it's not a choice then it's not a sin.

[CockySOB]

Agree with this

I'm not saying I agree with this. I'm commanding you all to agree with this.

Get a clue. Science has not provided ANY conclusive evidence supporting the notion that homosexuality is a genetic or biologically based phenomenom. If you have evidence to the contrary, post it.

Give me a reason to agree with this. And be sure to make it a solid logical argument including whatever conclusive scientific evidence you have to support your position. Whatever that position is....

[jimnyc]

Nothing is wrong with you finding it disgusting. Where you are wrong is thinking that it's immoral just because it's disgusting. Child birth is disgusting to me. Does that make it immoral? Of course not. If you witnessed most surgical procedures, you'd think they were disgusting as well. Does that make them immoral?

And why does it matter if it's a choice? Ever heard of free will? If it's not a choice then it's not a sin.

Child birth is of the norm, homosexuality is abnormal.

I'm not one who detests it because it's a sin as per the bible, I simply detest it because I think it's disgusting and abnormal. No different than me finding those who engage in 'scat' activities to be abnormal. They are free to make these decisions, as I am free to find it disgusting.