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    Question DNC steps in to silence lawsuit over Obama birth certificate

    inquiring minds want to know....

    Posted: October 04, 2008
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    By Drew Zahn
    © 2008 WorldNetDaily



    Philip J. Berg

    The man suing Sen. Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee for proof of Obama's American citizenship is outraged that his own party – rather than just providing the birth certificate he seeks – would step in to silence him by filing a motion to dismiss his lawsuit.

    As WND reported, prominent Pennsylvania Democrat and attorney Philip J. Berg filed suit in U.S. District Court two months ago claiming Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen and therefore not eligible to be elected president. Berg has since challenged Obama publicly that if the candidate will simply produce authorized proof of citizenship, he'll drop the suit.

    Berg told WND the longer the DNC tries to ignore his lawsuit or make it go away – instead of just providing the documents – the more convinced he is that his accusations are correct.

    Despite assertions by the Washington Post, FactChecker.org and other organizations that Obama has produced a certified Hawaiian birth certificate, Berg told WND he remains "99.99 percent sure" that the certificate is a fake and he wants a court, not a website, to determine its validity.

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    here's the one he released

    source

    ATLAS EXCLUSIVE: FINAL REPORT ON OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE FORGERY CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN
    Techdude delivers a final report that exceeds my wildest expectations. It is irrefutable, empirical evidence - Obama's birth certificate is a forgery. Why? Why a COLB (certificate of live birth) forgery? That is the question.
    source

    [YOUTUBE]Rd5gm8XKv_w[/YOUTUBE]

    a little misdirection ????

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    I was born in Hawaii..and my certificate doesn't look anything like the one above..

    why wouldn't he just release his original, what don't they want people to see??
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    Quote Originally Posted by stephanie View Post
    I was born in Hawaii..and my certificate doesn't look anything like the one above..

    why wouldn't he just release his original, what don't they want people to see??
    might be lost??? mine is much smaller but has more info on it.

    "what don't they want people to see??".........he's a politician. like all of em its none of our business. it might reveal the truth !!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephanie View Post
    inquiring minds want to know....

    Posted: October 04, 2008
    12:00 am Eastern


    By Drew Zahn
    © 2008 WorldNetDaily



    Philip J. Berg

    The man suing Sen. Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee for proof of Obama's American citizenship is outraged that his own party – rather than just providing the birth certificate he seeks – would step in to silence him by filing a motion to dismiss his lawsuit.
    As WND reported, prominent Pennsylvania Democrat and attorney Philip J. Berg filed suit in U.S. District Court two months ago claiming Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen and therefore not eligible to be elected president. Berg has since challenged Obama publicly that if the candidate will simply produce authorized proof of citizenship, he'll drop the suit.

    Berg told WND the longer the DNC tries to ignore his lawsuit or make it go away – instead of just providing the documents – the more convinced he is that his accusations are correct.

    Despite assertions by the Washington Post, FactChecker.org and other organizations that Obama has produced a certified Hawaiian birth certificate, Berg told WND he remains "99.99 percent sure" that the certificate is a fake and he wants a court, not a website, to determine its validity.

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    http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?f...w&pageId=76933
    it is a good point....he could make this go away in five minutes
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    Do you think that this will be resolved before the election?

    If it is, and the BC is found to be forged, will Hillary be the default candidate and will Barry get in any legal trouble? Can US Senators be born in other countries and still serve? Every search I have done only mentions the issue with electing a President.

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    if this is true, which i don't think it is, why hasn't mccain jumped all over this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    if this is true, which i don't think it is, why hasn't mccain jumped all over this?
    I agree. If I'm incorrect, one of the lawyers can correct me. There is no question that Barack's mother was a US citizen, thus he is, regardless of locale of birth. Same with the nonsense regarding McCain in Panama. In both cases for the most part, I've avoided the threads, as they are just misinformed, IMHO.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    I agree. If I'm incorrect, one of the lawyers can correct me. There is no question that Barack's mother was a US citizen, thus he is, regardless of locale of birth. Same with the nonsense regarding McCain in Panama. In both cases for the most part, I've avoided the threads, as they are just misinformed, IMHO.
    say what you want...I see this all over the net..People are questioning this..

    why wouldn't they want to show the original??
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    Quote Originally Posted by stephanie View Post
    say what you want...I see this all over the net..People are questioning this..

    why wouldn't they want to show the original??
    Stephanie, it's not a matter of 'what I want', it's a matter of the Constitution. We get our citizenship through our parents, either of them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Stephanie, it's not a matter of 'what I want', it's a matter of the Constitution. We get our citizenship through our parents, either of them.
    yes his citizenship is one of the questions..

    but another has been, that his name is something more, that he doesn't want people to see..

    there are other questions than just his citizenship..he could make this all go away, by just showing his original birth certificate..

    Why wont he????
    Last edited by stephanie; 10-05-2008 at 04:14 PM.
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    In a search of the Constitution online, according to FindLaw.com it says that U.S. law at that time stated the natural-born parent (this would be his mother) must have resided in the United States for 10 years, at least 5 of which had to be after the age of 16.

    Obama's mom was only 18 when he was born.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyKitten99 View Post
    In a search of the Constitution online, according to FindLaw.com it says that U.S. law at that time stated the natural-born parent (this would be his mother) must have resided in the United States for 10 years, at least 5 of which had to be after the age of 16.

    Obama's mom was only 18 when he was born.
    Obama's mother was born of US citizens, in the US. No confusion there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Obama's mother was born of US citizens, in the US. No confusion there.
    His father wasn't a citizen, he was a student here on a visa.

    If he was born elsewhere, then he does not qualify under the laws in place at the time.

    He needs to prove undeniably that he was in fact born in Hawaii.

    Maybe get the medical records of the hospital?

    If he has nothing to hide, then why not release them?

    edited to add link:
    "...4. December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986
    If, at the time of your birth, both your parents were U.S. citizens and at least one had a prior residence in the United States, you automatically acquired U.S. citizenship with no conditions for retaining it.

    If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16. There are no conditions placed on retaining this type of citizenship. If your one U.S. citizen parent is your father and you were born outside of marriage, the same rules apply if your father legally legitimated you before your 21st birthday and you were unmarried at the time. If legitimation occurred after November 14, 1986, your father must have established paternity prior to your 18th birthday, either by acknowledgment or by court order, and must have stated in writing that he would support you financially until your 18th birthday. "

    http://immigration.findlaw.com/immig...u-know(1).html
    Last edited by KitchenKitten99; 10-05-2008 at 04:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyKitten99 View Post
    His father wasn't a citizen, he was a student here on a visa.

    If he was born elsewhere, then he does not qualify under the laws in place at the time.

    He needs to prove undeniably that he was in fact born in Hawaii.

    Maybe get the medical records of the hospital?

    If he has nothing to hide, then why not release them?

    edited to add link:
    "...4. December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986
    If, at the time of your birth, both your parents were U.S. citizens and at least one had a prior residence in the United States, you automatically acquired U.S. citizenship with no conditions for retaining it.

    If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16. There are no conditions placed on retaining this type of citizenship. If your one U.S. citizen parent is your father and you were born outside of marriage, the same rules apply if your father legally legitimated you before your 21st birthday and you were unmarried at the time. If legitimation occurred after November 14, 1986, your father must have established paternity prior to your 18th birthday, either by acknowledgment or by court order, and must have stated in writing that he would support you financially until your 18th birthday. "

    http://immigration.findlaw.com/immig...u-know(1).html
    People have been asking this for months, and they get shot down as if they are some conspiracy nut..

    Why won't he release his original birth certificate, why is the Dnc in court fighting against the request of him showing it..why did they post a fake certificate..

    why???
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself."
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