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    Default "Redistribution" of wealth - a very misleading term

    I keep hearing liberals and other socialists say they want to "redistribute" the wealth in this country. But that implies that the wealth was "distributed" by someone to us all in the first place, and maybe that someone did a bad job and the liberals think they can do it better.

    But wealth was never "distributed" to any of us, except maybe by welfare clerks to various indigent persons. But the $100 that's in my wallet now, wasn't distributed to me by anyone. A guy with a car and I made an agreement: I'd tune up his car and fix a few things on it, and he'd pay me $100 to do it. I tuned it up, changed the oil, and replaced two squeaking belts that were badly worn. He's happy, now it starts easier, gets better gas mileage, and doesn't make weird sounds as he drives. He'd much rather have a car that drives like this, than have the $100; and I'd much rather have the $100 and don't mind getting my hands dirty to do something I do well.

    Nobody "distributed" anything to either one of us. He and I made a deal, both of us gave the other something of value, both of us are happy with the outcome.

    But if Barack Obama had come along just then, he might have taken the guy's $100, and the guy couldn't have gotten me to fix his car. He'd still have a shitty-running car that sometimes wouldn't start, I'd be $100 poorer... which means my son would be walking 3 miles to school instead of riding the bike I was about to fix up for him. Barack Obama wants me to think that a better use was made of that $100, than we would have made of it... but when we asked Barack Obama exactly what the money was used for, he couldn't answer the question.

    People who talk about "redistributing" wealth, are lying. What they are doing, is taking something that was yours, that you earned, and telling you that (a) they know better how to use it than you do, and (b) this somehow makes it OK for them to take it from you, whether you like it or not.

    These people aren't "redistributing" anything, because your money wasn't "distributed" to you in the first place. You EARNED it, and you got it because you DESERVED it, not because some uninvolved bureaucrat thought your having it would somehow be a good idea and so gave his blessing on you to receive it.

    "Redistributing" is a politician's way of implying you did NOT earn your money, and so it's not really yours. And pretending that his deciding what to use your money for, is the natural order of things. Not the idea that since you earned it, YOU should decide what to use it for. He's trying to get you away from that idea.
    "The social contract exists so that everyone doesn’t have to squat in the dust holding a spear to protect his woman and his meat all day every day. It does not exist so that the government can take your spear, your meat, and your woman because it knows better what to do with them." - Instapundit.com

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    Will ya change a timing belt in a 99 beetle for $100?

    I can't find anyone that will even take the job cept a dealer and I ain't going there.
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    Why the Hell should I have to press “1” for ENGLISH?

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    I love the analogy you've posted. It's great! Simple, direct and right to the point. Even an idiot should be able to figure out what you're talking about. I love it when someone posts something that brings it all into perspective that your average person can understand.

    Good one!

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    There is political power in promising to take something from one group of people and give it to another group of people.

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    Robin Hood is revered as a hero, not a villain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    Robin Hood is revered as a hero, not a villain.
    Obama is no Robin Hood and the people of America arn't starving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    Robin Hood is revered as a hero, not a villain.
    He certainly is. And do you know why?

    Robin Hood took money from GOVERNMENT TAX COLLECTORS, and gave it back to the people who earned it (the poor peasant farmers according to the legends).

    In other words, he fought against people like Barack Obama, a wannabee govt tax collector who wants to take money away from the people who earned it.

    Robin Hood was indeed a hero. Because... he was a true conservative, who thought government should keep its paws off hardworking people's earnings.
    "The social contract exists so that everyone doesn’t have to squat in the dust holding a spear to protect his woman and his meat all day every day. It does not exist so that the government can take your spear, your meat, and your woman because it knows better what to do with them." - Instapundit.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    Robin Hood is revered as a hero, not a villain.
    He wasn't taking from the people either like Bambam will do. Just watch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
    He certainly is. And do you know why?

    Robin Hood took money from GOVERNMENT TAX COLLECTORS, and gave it back to the people who earned it (the poor peasant farmers according to the legends).


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    Obama should spend his time tree hoping in tights with a bow and arrow in Sherwood Forrest and leave us alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine
    Robin Hood is revered as a hero, not a villain.
    Quote Originally Posted by Trigg View Post
    Obama is no Robin Hood and the people of America arn't starving.
    Count on thingfrommaine to get an analagy completely wrong, prove his opponent's point instead of his own, and make DP history by being a completely lousy shot but still managing to shoot himself in the foot every time.
    "The social contract exists so that everyone doesn’t have to squat in the dust holding a spear to protect his woman and his meat all day every day. It does not exist so that the government can take your spear, your meat, and your woman because it knows better what to do with them." - Instapundit.com

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    Despite Enlish mythical legends, a freemarket economy is much better for the acquirement of wealth then an inefficient government will every be. We do not need Obama deciding on who gets what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MtnBiker View Post
    Obama should spend his time tree hoping in tights with a bow and arrow in Sherwood Forrest and leave us alone.
    I couldn't agree more.

    Besides, dressed like that, there's a good chance Barney Frank might follow him there, ridding us of two socialists for the price of one.
    "The social contract exists so that everyone doesn’t have to squat in the dust holding a spear to protect his woman and his meat all day every day. It does not exist so that the government can take your spear, your meat, and your woman because it knows better what to do with them." - Instapundit.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
    Count on thingfrommaine to get an analagy completely wrong, prove his opponent's point instead of his own, and make DP history by being a completely lousy shot but still managing to shoot himself in the foot every time.
    most legends about the nearly assuredly fictional character, Robin Hood have him robbing the rich - and NOT government tax collectors - and giving to the poor.

    which is in direct response to the post by Mtnbiker which said "There is political power in promising to take something from one group of people and give it to another group of people."

    clearly, Obama has tapped into that power... he's gonna be your next president. get used to it.

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    The liberal counter arguement to the misleading term of wealth redistribution is Robin Hood. Wow, policy by mythical fantasy.

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