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    Quote Originally Posted by bullypulpit View Post
    The fact of the matter is that the Bush tax cuts have resulted in significant tax savings for the top 5% of American taxpayers, in effect, becoming a regressive tax rather than a progressive tax system.

    For a thorough examination of the effects of the Bush tax cuts can be found at the <a href=http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/briefing-book/background/bush-tax-cuts/ignore.cfm>Tax Policy Center</a> website.

    I'm sure your frustration becomes intolerable every time you find out that reality has a "liberal" bias.
    BP< the following are facts about the "rich" and the Bush tax cuts

    Fact - Since the Bush tax cuts, the top 1% are paying MORE in taxes. They are currently paying 40% of all federal income taxes

    Fact - the bottom 50% pay only about 3% of all federal income taxes

    Fact - Liberals said the Bush tax cuts were so tiny, the middle class would not see a sizeable cut. Well, Obama is promisisng the working class a $1,000 tax cut. What is $1000 divided by 52? I do not hear libs saying the tax cut is tiny this time. The fact is, the middle class pay a small percentage of all federal income taxes

    Fact - Since the Bush tax cuts, about 40% of workers do not pay any federal income taxes

    Fact - Under Obama, those people who pay no federal income taxes will get a "tax cut". I always thought one had to pay a tax before they could get a tax cut

    Fact - Obama will use the tax code to expand the welfare system by giving away other peoples money


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    BP< the following are facts about the "rich" and the Bush tax cuts

    Fact - Since the Bush tax cuts, the top 1% are paying MORE in taxes. They are currently paying 40% of all federal income taxes

    Fact - the bottom 50% pay only about 3% of all federal income taxes

    Fact - Liberals said the Bush tax cuts were so tiny, the middle class would not see a sizeable cut. Well, Obama is promisisng the working class a $1,000 tax cut. What is $1000 divided by 52? I do not hear libs saying the tax cut is tiny this time. The fact is, the middle class pay a small percentage of all federal income taxes

    Fact - Since the Bush tax cuts, about 40% of workers do not pay any federal income taxes

    Fact - Under Obama, those people who pay no federal income taxes will get a "tax cut". I always thought one had to pay a tax before they could get a tax cut

    Fact - Obama will use the tax code to expand the welfare system by giving away other peoples money
    And your "facts" come from where...exactly? I mean besides the deepest, darkest nether regions of your arse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullypulpit View Post
    And your "facts" come from where...exactly? I mean besides the deepest, darkest nether regions of your arse.

    They come from the IRS. They would know who pays the taxes and how much they pay

    http://www.ntu.org/main/page.php?PageID=6

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-who-dont-pay/

    Now do like you usually do BP, dismiss the facts and runaway from the thread


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    Neither of those links lead to any accurate information as supplied from the IRS, rsr. In fact, both lead to obviously biased reichwing organizations that contribute heavily to the Republican Party and the John McCain campaign. One states that the information offered is sourced from the IRS but offers no information as to how they arrived at the conclusions. I distrust the conclusions as presented by them.

    Nice try, though!!!!!!!!! I see you still think the agenda driven reichwing nut rags are good sources of information as you have for several years. Do you not ever cross check them? It may take a little time and concentration on your part but it is clear to any experienced and thinking taxpayer that the information that you seem to worship is at best horseshit.


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    This redistribution of wealth through the tax system is far to complicated and inefficient. A much better and more progressive way would to have the government take over payroll. Businesses should send money to the government and government can decide on the most fair way to distribute monies to the employed and unemployed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    Neither of those links lead to any accurate information as supplied from the IRS, rsr. In fact, both lead to obviously biased reichwing organizations that contribute heavily to the Republican Party and the John McCain campaign. One states that the information offered is sourced from the IRS but offers no information as to how they arrived at the conclusions. I didstrust the conclusions as presented by them.

    Nice try, though!!!!!!!!! I see you still think the agenda driven reichwing nut rags are good sources of information as you have for several years. Do you not ever cross check them? It may take a little time and concentration on your part but it is clear to any experienced and thinking taxpayer that the information that you seem to worship is at best horseshit.

    Bullshit. The links clearly showed the top 1% are paying 40% of income taxes an INCREASE over the previous years

    The links also showed 40% of workers do not pay federal income taxes

    Like the thread on Dems talking about taking over 401K's, you simply deny the truth, do not present any opposing info, and smear me for posting the truth


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    I'm not discussing what the links show other than to point out that they are not the IRS as you earlier stated.

    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Bullshit. The links clearly showed the top 1% are paying 40% of income taxes an INCREASE over the previous years

    The links also showed 40% of workers do not pay federal income taxes

    Like the thread on Dems talking about taking over 401K's, you simply deny the truth, do not present any opposing info, and smear me for posting the truth
    Your links lead to reichwing based pundit driven drivel of dubious origin that spits out garbage and feeds it to you calling it ice cream. You like it? You eat it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    I'm not discussing what the links show other than to point out that they are not the IRS as you earlier stated.



    Your links lead to reichwing based pundit driven drivel of dubious origin that spits out garbage and feeds it to you calling it ice cream. You like it? You eat it.

    OK micro brain, you are not itnerested in the truth on who pays taxes - fine. You go ahead and sit in your pool of hate, and scratch your pointy head trying to figure out why the facts go against you

    Looks like people are catching on to Lord Obama's socialist redistribution of wealth plan - every poll I have seen has vlosed to within a few points


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    So, you would rather attack me than to defend your information or your links?


    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    OK micro brain, you are not itnerested in the truth on who pays taxes - fine. You go ahead and sit in your pool of hate, and scratch your pointy head trying to figure out why the facts go against you

    Looks like people are catching on to Lord Obama's socialist redistribution of wealth plan - every poll I have seen has vlosed to within a few points
    Got it, dumbo!!!!!!!!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    So, you would rather attack me than to defend your information or your links?




    Got it, dumbo!!!!!!!!!!!

    I did. the links clearly show everything I said they do. But you lie, ignore, and dismiss the facts like your liberal buds MFM and BP

    The top 1% are currently paying 40% of income taxes. 40% of workers do not any federal income taxes. Obama will expand welfare handouts by giving tax cuts to these people who do not pay income taxes. The top 1% are paying more in taxes now then they were when the Bush tax cuts went thru

    Those are facts and you can't refute them

    Now please snarl and grunt; and show me you stil care PB


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    Quote Originally Posted by bullypulpit View Post
    The fact of the matter is that the Bush tax cuts have resulted in significant tax savings for the top 5% of American taxpayers, in effect, becoming a regressive tax rather than a progressive tax system.

    For a thorough examination of the effects of the Bush tax cuts can be found at the <a href=http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/briefing-book/background/bush-tax-cuts/ignore.cfm>Tax Policy Center</a> website.

    I'm sure your frustration becomes intolerable every time you find out that reality has a "liberal" bias.
    You have not answered my question. You said tax dollars are being spent on the top 5%. All I ask is that you prove it.

    Your answer is that his tax cuts have "in effect" made their tax a regressive tax as opposed to a progressive tax? It is NOT a regressive tax. It is still very much a progressive tax. Unless of course you can document where a lower class tax bracket is paying higher taxes than a higher tax income bracket.

    That, is "the fact of the matter".
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    Quote Originally Posted by theHawk View Post
    You have not answered my question. You said tax dollars are being spent on the top 5%. All I ask is that you prove it.

    Your answer is that his tax cuts have "in effect" made their tax a "regressive tax as opposed to a progressive tax? It is NOT a regressive tax. It is still very much a progressive tax. Unless of course you can document where a lower class tax bracket is paying higher taxes than a higher tax income bracket.

    That, is "the fact of the matter".
    The Bush tax cuts have seen the top 1% paying MORE in taxes because they are making more due to increased economic activity

    The Bush tax cuts dropped the lowest rate from 15% to 10% - and droped millions off the income tax rolls all together

    For some reason liberals see tax cuts as a zero sum game. they will never learn when taxes are cut, more moeny is brought into the treasury due to increased economic growth, more people working and paying taxes, and more people making mroe money


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    Now you're arguing with yourself, Dumbo. I recognise what the articles say just like you do. I don't believe the information even approaches any degree of accuracy and further point out that the information did not come from the IRS as you stated. Real simple, rsr. You can put lipstick on a pig,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,well you get it, I think.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    Now you're arguing with yourself, Dumbo. I recognise what the articles say just like you do. I don't believe the information even approaches any degree of accuracy and further point out that the information did not come from the IRS as you stated. Real simple, rsr. You can put lipstick on a pig,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,well you get it, I think.

    Yea, to you micro brain, the IRS is last outfit that would know who pays the taxes and how much they pay

    You would rather go with whatever Lord Obama tells you


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    I maintain the information did not come from the IRS as you said but came from a reichwing rag and is not to be trusted under any circumstances.


    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Yea, to you micro brain, the IRS is last outfit that would know who pays the taxes and how much they pay

    You would rather go with whatever Lord Obama tells you
    But, obviously you do trust it. Great!!!!!!!!!!!! Now take the next step and verify if the IRS indeed said what your pissass article says that they say. I can't promise you that it will be a simple task but I do promise you that you will be enlightened if you just extrapolate and investigate just a bit on your own!!!!!!!!!!!!! You're getting testy and real dumb lately, rsr!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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