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    Default A President Who Won't Uphold the Constitution? Never.



    by Laura Hollis

    Well, now we know why Barack Obama’s been so reluctant to have symbols of this country associated with his campaign. No flags on his airplane. Nix to pins on his lapel. Not inclined to put his hand over his heart during the national anthem.

    After all, it turns out he has a problem with that other slightly more significant representation of our nation, the United States Constitution.

    Just as he tried to prove to everyone that his patriotism was demonstrated by the lack of symbols of the United States, so he is now arguing that his passion for the Constitution is demonstrated by his commitment to shredding it.

    The Drudge Report and other legitimate investigative sources like the National Review, have exposed the most damning evidence yet of Barack Obama’s utter disregard for the core principles of the United States government. In a radio interview given in 2001, Obama reveals yet again about what he means by ‘equality,’ when he says, “…the Supreme Court never entered into the issues of redistribution of wealth, and sort of more basic issues of political and economic justice in this society.”

    Bad? Sure. Because now it’s not just “spread the wealth” a little bit (antithetical as that already is to American notions of hard work and prosperity). It’s that “redistribution of wealth” is part and parcel of Obama’s vision of what is “political and economic justice” in this society.

    But it is much worse. Because this Harvard-educated lawyer then announces that the United States Supreme Court when headed by Chief Justice Earl Warren, was “not radical enough,” in its pursuit of civil liberties, because “[i]t didn’t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution.”

    If this has not stopped you dead in your tracks, either you don’t understand, or you’re already dead. What Obama is doing here is expressing his opinion that the Court would have better effectuated his definition of “political and economic justice” if it had been willing to ignore the limits placed upon it by the Constitution.


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    We haven't followed the Constitution since about 1848...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5stringJeff View Post
    We haven't followed the Constitution since about 1848...
    and Barr will prove different. Why didn't he as a multi-term rep?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    and Barr will prove different. Why didn't he as a multi-term rep?
    He has since had a major change of heart, sworn off his old politics, and developed a new political philosophy. Meanwhile, McCain and Obama both want to give out a couple trillion dollars to the people who caused the boom/bust in the first place. Where is that authorized in the Constitution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5stringJeff View Post
    He has since had a major change of heart, sworn off his old politics, and developed a new political philosophy. Meanwhile, McCain and Obama both want to give out a couple trillion dollars to the people who caused the boom/bust in the first place. Where is that authorized in the Constitution?
    and Lieberman is now a conservative. Give me a break.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 5stringJeff View Post
    He has since had a major change of heart, sworn off his old politics, and developed a new political philosophy. Meanwhile, McCain and Obama both want to give out a couple trillion dollars to the people who caused the boom/bust in the first place. Where is that authorized in the Constitution?
    is it possible to develope a new political philosophy out of the ashes of an old political philosophy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    is it possible to develope a new political philosophy out of the ashes of an old political philosophy?
    Well, Libertarianism worked for our founders, I mean, I think we can look at what they left behind and go, "Okay, that's a decent job." Sometimes, to move forward, you need to move backward, look at the problem from the outside, and take a new direction. You don't think he took up the LP for it's soaring political power, do you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stephanie View Post
    But it is much worse. Because this Harvard-educated lawyer then announces that the United States Supreme Court when headed by Chief Justice Earl Warren, was “not radical enough,” in its pursuit of civil liberties, because “[i]t didn’t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution.”

    That statement really hits the nail on the head for the way Obama thinks. The Constitution is full of "constraints" that need to be broken. This is how he views the Constitution, its a roadblock, it is a problem, it is an obsticle.

    There is no doubt that Obama is a closet communist that despises that freedoms that are protected in the Constitution. He doesn't see that Constitution as something that protects citizens rights, he views it as something that constrains government. He is right, it does constrain the government, but he seems to be oblivious to the fact that thats exactly what the Founding Fathers fully intended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theHawk View Post
    That statement really hits the nail on the head for the way Obama thinks. The Constitution is full of "constraints" that need to be broken. This is how he views the Constitution, its a roadblock, it is a problem, it is an obsticle.

    There is no doubt that Obama is a closet communist that despises that freedoms that are protected in the Constitution. He doesn't see that Constitution as something that protects citizens rights, he views it as something that constrains government. He is right, it does constrain the government, but he seems to be oblivious to the fact that thats exactly what the Founding Fathers fully intended.
    I don't see the 'closet communist' in these comments. I do in others, but not closet.

    Why is LA Times hiding that video?


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    Good question! You can be sure that if contained even a hint at some damning information about a right sider it would be playing over and over again on the US Government News Network of CBS< NBC< ABC< MSNBC and CNN.
    If you continue to think the way you have always thought, you will continue to get what you have always got!

    A government big enough to provide you everything you need is big enough to take everything you have!

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    Quote Originally Posted by emmett View Post
    Good question! You can be sure that if contained even a hint at some damning information about a right sider it would be playing over and over again on the US Government News Network of CBS< NBC< ABC< MSNBC and CNN.
    Converse. They are hiding for some reason, perhaps Obama quote against Isreal? Likely.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonStryk72 View Post
    Well, Libertarianism worked for our founders, I mean, I think we can look at what they left behind and go, "Okay, that's a decent job." Sometimes, to move forward, you need to move backward, look at the problem from the outside, and take a new direction. You don't think he took up the LP for it's soaring political power, do you?

    Another good question. How about an answer from one of you Anti-Libertarians! tell us how Bob Barr is a power hungary player in the political arena. Tell us how he is not fully aware that changing his direction in the way of more liberty and less government would be risky. How about some substance in your debate points as to something other than he "used to" because what he "used to" be is exactly what you righties wish to God you had in John Mccain right now!

    As a Rep Bob Barr fought for the Bill of Rights and Americans Liberties. He went after Bill Clinton, a lying ass scoundrel of a president who lied to cover his ass. YOu guys cheered him then and bragged of his skill and technique. Everyone considered him the "leader" in that effort,

    Bob Barr is big enough to admit he was wrong about the Patriot Act! How many politicians have you known in your lives who have stood up and admitted being wrong? What an attribute! I KNOW ONE!!!! Bob Barr! He admitted he was wrong about medical marijuana and other topics as well.


    Give me a president who is willing to stand up and admit he has changed his mind and moved toward civil liberty any day than some political hack who just happens to adjust his agenda at election time. John McCain is one of the most liberal Republicans in politics and everybody here knows it! He's just all you have. He won the damn nomination because he benefited from his opponets all being more conservative than he was and bumping heads and stealing each others support. The man didn't poll 8% of GOP voters nationwide going in. Hell....Fred Thompson had more GOP support than he did.

    Bob Barr believes strongly in what he stands for. He has taken great political risk to stand for these things and I admire that very much. He is far more qualified to be president than either John McCain or Barack Obama and that is why I tingled when I pushed the Libertarian button today on the damn screen and I am so damn proud of it I could shout it out right now.
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    A President Who Won't Uphold the Constitution? Never. We have had that for 8 years already!
    A chance for a new beginning, like a dawn of reconciliation.

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    Forgive me for trying to be grammatically correct, but doesn't "A candidate who won't uphold the Constitution? Never!" actually mean that the candidate will uphold the Constitution? Double negatives and all?

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    Obama made a promise on Wednesday night, that I believe he will keep. He said, "I won't be a perfect President." I believe he'll keep that promise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by April15 View Post
    A President Who Won't Uphold the Constitution? Never. We have had that for 8 years already!
    Correction: 75 years.

    Social Security, for example, is flatly unconstitutional. Likewise Welfare, the EPA, Dept of Education, OSHA, govt Affirmative Action, and a host of other programs.

    Leftists who support such programs, of course, have long had a habit of pointing to Supreme Court cases approving some of those programs, and insisting that "The Constitution is whatever the Supreme Court says it is!"

    Since the USSC's ruling striking down the DC gun ban and declaring that the right to keep and bear arms is an individual right, unrelated to any military or militia service, the liberals haven't been saying that much any more. Seems they now don't hold the Supremes as the final arbiter on these cases any longer. Wisdom comes to us all, sooner or later.

    The govt hasn't upheld much of the Constitution, for several generations now (or longer)., though they do support a few parts of it. It's always a hoot to hear liberals (whose entire agenda is basically unconstitutional) complaining about Republicans supporting some of the same unconstitutional programs they do.
    "The social contract exists so that everyone doesn’t have to squat in the dust holding a spear to protect his woman and his meat all day every day. It does not exist so that the government can take your spear, your meat, and your woman because it knows better what to do with them." - Instapundit.com

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