Gay threats target Christians over Prop 8

[avatar4321]

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80220

Ive always believed the gay marriage push is specifically to give groups like this legal justification to attack Christians more than marriage itself. Looks like im not too disappointed. I wish I was.

[Yurt]

i certainly hope these folks are in the extreme minority...

what is interesting to me, is that if this was gun owners getting upset over a gun ban, the left would be all over us claiming we are extremists and anti american...watch, the left will remain silent over their threats of violence and largely silent if any actual violence occurs.

[manu1959]

there are nut jobs on every side of every issue......nice sweeping generalization....

[avatar4321]

there are nut jobs on every side of every issue......nice sweeping generalization....

Lately, it seems as if everyone on the left is a nut job. Quite frankly, I don't get it.

[YamiB.]

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80220

Ive always believed the gay marriage push is specifically to give groups like this legal justification to attack Christians more than marriage itself. Looks like im not too disappointed. I wish I was.

Once again I'll point out that it is your side who is attacking religious freedom on this issue, though I guess you don't really care as long as it's your particular religious beliefs that are held as superior and enshrined in law.

I think that it is crazy to take a couple of extremists and use it to paint the whole movement. MLK was exactly the same as Malcom X right?

I doesn't surprise me that some of the more extreme supporters of gay rights would start getting pushed to an even more extreme stance because of the continued denial of equal treatment under the law. The continued refusal has made them angry and their anger naturally went towards the biggest force against having them treated equally in this country. Besides the whole violence issue though this is wrong as well because it is doing the same thing that avatar is trying to do here. There are plenty of Christians that recognize what the right thing to do is and are supporting gay rights, and it would be wrong to ignore their contribution by portraying all Christians as the enemies of homosexuals.

[avatar4321]

Once again I'll point out that it is your side who is attacking religious freedom on this issue, though I guess you don't really care as long as it's your particular religious beliefs that are held as superior and enshrined in law.

I think that it is crazy to take a couple of extremists and use it to paint the whole movement. MLK was exactly the same as Malcom X right?

I doesn't surprise me that some of the more extreme supporters of gay rights would start getting pushed to an even more extreme stance because of the continued denial of equal treatment under the law. The continued refusal has made them angry and their anger naturally went towards the biggest force against having them treated equally in this country. Besides the whole violence issue though this is wrong as well because it is doing the same thing that avatar is trying to do here. There are plenty of Christians that recognize what the right thing to do is and are supporting gay rights, and it would be wrong to ignore their contribution by portraying all Christians as the enemies of homosexuals.

Gay marriage is a moral issue. Morals transcend religions. Or atleast thats what our athiest friends always tell us. It seems that truth is only convenient for you when you cant use it to attack religious people speaking out on their conscience. To people like you we should all just shut up, bend over, and let you have your say in society.

I dont put up with that crap.

[manu1959]

Lately, it seems as if everyone on the left is a nut job. Quite frankly, I don't get it.

i guess compared to a few here i am left of you all.....am i a nut job....

[YamiB.]

Gay marriage is a moral issue. Morals transcend religions. Or atleast thats what our athiest friends always tell us. It seems that truth is only convenient for you when you cant use it to attack religious people speaking out on their conscience. To people like you we should all just shut up, bend over, and let you have your say in society.

I dont put up with that crap.

What real reasons to be people have to ban same-sex marriage besides their religious reasons? If they're using religious reasons they're being inconsistent because they don't try to have all sins banned through law.

My side isn't attacking religion your side is. Only one side is trying to control what is considered a real marriage outside of their own churches, only one side is trying to force their religious beliefs on another.

What moral reasons do you have to think that same-sex marriage should be banned?

[Yurt]

i guess compared to a few here i am left of you all.....am i a nut job....

did you need to ask?

[manu1959]

What real reasons to be people have to ban same-sex marriage besides their religious reasons? If they're using religious reasons they're being inconsistent because they don't try to have all sins banned through law.

My side isn't attacking religion your side is. Only one side is trying to control what is considered a real marriage outside of their own churches, only one side is trying to force their religious beliefs on another.

What moral reasons do you have to think that same-sex marriage should be banned?

marriage is a religious rite that has been co-opeted by the government....under seperation of church and state that was wrong....

if the government wants to grant civil unions to whomever...go for it....but do not tell the church how to run its business.....the government sure seems to not want the church dictating how it runs its business.....

ya can't have it both ways....

[YamiB.]

marriage is a religious rite that has been co-opeted by the government....under seperation of church and state that was wrong....

if the government wants to grant civil unions to whomever...go for it....but do not tell the church how to run its business.....the government sure seems to not want the church dictating how it runs its business.....

ya can't have it both ways....

Marriage is not soley a religious institution it is also an important social one. Just because it has been handled primarily through the Christian church in Christian dominated areas that does not mean that they have sole control over it. They of course have control of how it is handled within their churches as has been the case with marriage regulations throughout our history. The seperation of church and state has already been effectively applied in a similar situation. The state would not be allowed to deny somebody marriage because they're atheists or because one of them is Buddhist, but churches are allowed to do this and commonly do. It is the church that is trying to overstep it's bounds by using their rules for marriage to determine how it is handled for everybody in the legal world.

As I said in the other thread civil unions are fine as long as they're given to everybody and there are no legal rights attached to marriage. The likelihood of the institution being treated in an unequal matter is much less likely if it is one that the majority belongs to as well.

[crin63]

Thanks to Homosexuals attacking churches to try and silence them from preaching against homosexuality I had to go to a legal workshop to limit my churches liability against lawsuits. Due to Sarbane-Oxley attacks against churches by homosexuals has dramatically increased according to a lawyer I know who defends churches. It also keeps it out of the media because of whistle blower protections.

My church preaches against all sexual sin not just homosexuality. We won't tolerate any sexual sin that we are aware of or become aware of.

[YamiB.]

Thanks to Homosexuals attacking churches to try and silence them from preaching against homosexuality I had to go to a legal workshop to limit my churches liability against lawsuits. Due to Sarbane-Oxley attacks against churches by homosexuals has dramatically increased according to a lawyer I know who defends churches. It also keeps it out of the media because of whistle blower protections.

My church preaches against all sexual sin not just homosexuality. We won't tolerate any sexual sin that we are aware of or become aware of.

Are you guys campaigning to have the worshiping of other gods outlawed? If not how do you defend such hypocrisy?

[bullypulpit]

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80220

Ive always believed the gay marriage push is specifically to give groups like this legal justification to attack Christians more than marriage itself. Looks like im not too disappointed. I wish I was.

WorldNetDaily is hardly a reputable source on ANY issue, and the article links to no sources for these comments. Take it with a grain of salt.

[bullypulpit]

marriage is a religious rite that has been co-opeted by the government....under seperation of church and state that was wrong....

if the government wants to grant civil unions to whomever...go for it....but do not tell the church how to run its business.....the government sure seems to not want the church dictating how it runs its business.....

ya can't have it both ways....

No, it wasn't. The sole interest of the state in marriage is in the contractual relationship it establishes between the parties involved. Their religious preference, or lack thereof is irrelevant, as should be the gender of the parties involved.