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    Quote Originally Posted by namvet View Post
    what load????
    ever hear of mid air refueling ???
    ever hear of bunker bustin' bombs????
    I'm sorry. I thought you had read my posts before replying.

    they can fly over the med. all the way.
    Especially where I suggested you look at a map.

    they have the exact same capabilites here we do. that's what they'll use.
    B-52s? B1s? B2s? Or any aircraft that can fly from Israel to Tehran and back without refuelling?

    Are you feeling OK?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AFbombloader View Post
    Both have the lift capacity to go all the way to Iran with a load of bombs and return to Israel with the air refueling capacity their own air force has with the 5 KC-707 tankers they have.
    Above what country would they do this refuelling? Turkey is very unlikely to grant permission for them to enter their airspace for ANY reason. And if/when President Obama pulls our troops out of Iraq too early and the country reverts to terrorist rule (do you think that can't happen?), Iraq won't grant them permission either.

    Did you have some other country in mind, above which Israel can do their midair refulling? Which one?

    My suggestion to look at a map, is generally applicable.

    These are all reasons why Israel almost MUST strike now, before Obama takes office. They are much more likely to succeed before then, than after.
    Last edited by Little-Acorn; 12-04-2008 at 01:31 PM.
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    You know, I can't help but think that, should Israel decide to hit Iran, they will not worry about permission to refuel should it be necessary. The attack on Iran will have pissed off everyone in the region, so why bother asking for permission? In for a penny, in for a pound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
    Above what country would they do this refuelling? Turkey is very unlikely to grant permission for them to enter their airspace for ANY reason. And if/when President Obama pulls our troops out of Iraq too early and the country reverts to terrorist rule (do you think that can't happen?), Iraq won't grant them permission either.

    Did you have some other country in mind, above which Israel can do their midair refulling? Which one?

    My suggestion to look at a map, is generally applicable.

    These are all reasons why Israel almost MUST strike now, before Obama takes office. They are much more likely to succeed before then, than after.
    And just exactly WHAT airforce is going to stop them over Iraq??? it sure as hell won't be us or the Iraqis. Your forgeting that Iraq has no airforce to speak of to stop them.

    So what is your point!!!!???? They won't need permission to refuel over Iraq.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by namvet View Post
    its now obvious they have NO confidence in Osama at all
    I think that we have to admit that is an unfair comment....they would have done it without Bush's approval too......
    ...full immersion.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nukeman View Post
    And just exactly WHAT airforce is going to stop them over Iraq???
    Russia was shooting down high-flying aircraft with guided missiles back in the 60s. And from whom do you think the terrorists who take over Iraq when Obama pulls out, will be buying their hardware from with all those nice petrodollars they'll have access to?

    As I have said, Israel would be VERY wise to hit Iran's nuke facilities BEFORE Obama takes office. After he takes office, conditions certainly won't be more favorable for them, and may be much worse. Can Israel afford to take the chance that they can still hit Iran afterward??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
    I'm sorry. I thought you had read my posts before replying.


    Especially where I suggested you look at a map.


    B-52s? B1s? B2s? Or any aircraft that can fly from Israel to Tehran and back without refuelling?

    Are you feeling OK?
    B-52s? B1s? B2s? are you feeling ok ???? no. I don't think you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
    Russia was shooting down high-flying aircraft with guided missiles back in the 60s. And from whom do you think the terrorists who take over Iraq when Obama pulls out, will be buying their hardware from with all those nice petrodollars they'll have access to?

    As I have said, Israel would be VERY wise to hit Iran's nuke facilities BEFORE Obama takes office. After he takes office, conditions certainly won't be more favorable for them, and may be much worse. Can Israel afford to take the chance that they can still hit Iran afterward??
    You are ASSUMING that Isreal is looking at doing this years from now. Guess what that aint going to happen. If they don't attack iran in the next 12 months they never will. So your whole train of thought is WRONG

    Ohh by the way when exactly are we LEAVING Iraq. We will have a presence in Iraq for decades to come just like we do in Germany and Japan, Or do you think otherwise...
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    Quote Originally Posted by namvet View Post
    they can fly over the med. all the way.
    ???...dude....if Israel attacks Iran by flying over the Med, Iran has nothing to worry about.......Crete may be screwed, though.....
    ...full immersion.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    ???...dude....if Israel attacks Iran by flying over the Med, Iran has nothing to worry about.......Crete may be screwed, though.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    I think that we have to admit that is an unfair comment....they would have done it without Bush's approval too......
    read between the lines.

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    the plans for this attack were made months ago. right down to the last detail. for those who doubt Israel's resolve and ability you have but to read about the raid on Entebbe - operation Thunderbolt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nukeman View Post
    You are ASSUMING that Isreal is looking at doing this years from now.
    I am?

    Where do you get such strange, silly statements......

    We will have a presence in Iraq for decades to come just like we do in Germany and Japan, Or do you think otherwise...
    Our President-elect seems to think otherwise. Direct your question to him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    ???...dude....if Israel attacks Iran by flying over the Med, Iran has nothing to worry about.......Crete may be screwed, though.....
    ????Crete??? dude you need a map. bad !!!!!

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    Last edited by hjmick; 12-04-2008 at 03:08 PM.
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