Global Warming- how can you deny it?

[LiberalNation]

it's hard to argue with a person who is a member of the global warming cult..]

and the fact that no one even tries to debate here (nothing but ur dumb, I'm right, end of post crap) is why this board is so totally lopsided.

[Gaffer]

The green house effect can be caused by any number of things. A major volcanic eruption will have the greenhouse effect. In fact one volcano can do more to effect the atmosphere than all the people on earth in a hundred years. Man's affect on this planet is about as much as an ant colony affects your yard.

You can worry and fret about it all you want, it won't change a thing. Nature does what nature does and mankind is just stuck with the results. But if you want to shell out money to a bunch of greenie priests and prophets of doom, then go for it.

And so far no one has explained to me how man is affecting global warming on Mars.

[Psychoblues]

Just what "bull" do you attribute to Al Gore, Des?

I'm sorry, but I don't "follow" Al Gore or any of his bull. He's interested in making money, that's all. That does not mean the basic ideas he's profited off of in one way or another are not real, have not been developed by real scientests somewhere else, and don't have any meaning.

I think he makes a helluva lot of sense and apparently the Nobel Prize scholars agree. These imbeciles around here might choose to discount his theories but I've never seen a credible refutation of any of them here.



Psychoblues

[LiberalNation]

I think we could have some effect upon the climate but nothing compared to what it can, will, and does do on it's own. Man didn't cause the snowball earth, the first ice ages, the volcanic winters, the global warming that spawned the large dinosours. Earth is going to be destroyed one day regardless. Eventually leaving the planet and populating other worlds is our only hope for long term survival as a species.

[stephanie]

and the fact that no one even tries to debate here (nothing but ur dumb, I'm right, end of post crap) is why this board is so totally lopsided.

yeah, because you add so much intelligent debate, it's overwhelming..

[Des]

Just what "bull" do you attribute to Al Gore, Des?




I think he makes a helluva lot of sense and apparently the Nobel Prize scholars agree. These imbeciles around here might choose to discount his theories but I've never seen a credible refutation of any of them here.



Psychoblues

Al Gore is more interested in the idea of selling carbon credits, movies, and books than doing anything about any issues he perceives.

Al Gores theories are borrowed, they are not his own. He takes the ideas and uses fear about his estimated outcome to try and sell something. He's a salesman, not a scientest. A politician. He is a big reason many otherwise accepting people would understand what's going on with the climate.

Do you really think carbon credits do anything for the enviroment or our attitude, even in a relatively small way?

[LiberalNation]

yep.

[stephanie]

yep.

[Des]

I think we could have some effect upon the climate but nothing compared to what it can, will, and does do on it's own. Man didn't cause the snowball earth, the first ice ages, the volcanic winters, the global warming that spawned the large dinosours. Earth is going to be destroyed one day regardless. Eventually leaving the planet and populating other worlds is our only hope for long term survival as a species.

First of all, leaving the planet and populating other worlds is not even remotely do-able right now. Some of the biggest reasons for the space program are not for the purposes of furthering "colonization science", but have more earthly links.

Ice ages, volcanic winters, the gradual shift in gases in the atmosphere...they were all caused or switched on by something relatively small in relation to the earth. People are a pretty big and powerful force on this planet.

[LiberalNation]

Ice ages, volcanic winters, the gradual shift in gases in the atmosphere...they were all caused or switched on by something relatively small in relation to the earth. People are a pretty big and powerful force on this planet.

and adaptable and what is cause by man can eventually be revearsed when they start to feel the hurt of it so why freak now. We can't stop those others things so don't worry about them even tho they're bound to happen.

[Des]

and adaptable and what is cause by man can eventually be revearsed when they start to feel the hurt of it so why freak now. We can't stop those others things so don't worry about them even tho they're bound to happen.

Theres a difference between freaking and understanding what's going on.

[Des]

yep.

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[LiberalNation]

responce to steph.

[LiberalNation]

Theres a difference between freaking and understanding what's going on.

A lot of people are freaking and want to hurt the ecomony/live people now to try and stop it.

[PostmodernProphet]

Does it matter? Look at the information presented. It's pretty clear that we are accelerating something. .

it is NOT "pretty clear" that we are accelerating it....if you look at the historical record of temperatures from ice core samples it appears that we are pretty much on track with what has been happening cyclically for the last 450k years.....if anything, we are ready to begin a plunge into another ice age.....and, if you look at the data for just the last ten or twenty years, that may already have begun.....