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    Default Chicago Homicides Exceed U.S. Iraq Deaths

    Since so many innocent people are dying the US needs to pull out of Chicago. We are not wanted there so why do we stay where we are not welcome?

    It is clear the plan to restore order in Chicago is failing, and we need to redeploy our law enforcement resources

    It is a combat zone in Chicago and the state of IL

    The failed leadership in Il and Chicago has to rethink their plan to stop the slaughter

    PE Barack Obama, Dick Durbin, Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr., Gov. Rod Blogojevich, House leader Mike Madigan, Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan , and Mayor Richard M. Daley have been miserable failures

    Liberals can't blame Republicans - there aren't any in IL

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...P_fjwD95DTIB80

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    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,0,55475.story


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    liberals warn....if you attack the gangs that are selling drugs, the collateral damage will incite others to join the gangs, thus increasing drug traffic......./shrugs, hey the argument worked for terrorism, didn't it?......
    ...full immersion.....

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    Some of the change could be, we will no longer waterboard terrorists. No, we will subject them to surf boarding

    Gitmo terrorists to be relocated to Hawaii, but not near the Obama's vacation home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    liberals warn....if you attack the gangs that are selling drugs, the collateral damage will incite others to join the gangs, thus increasing drug traffic......./shrugs, hey the argument worked for terrorism, didn't it?......
    For several years anyway. But when none existed before it does say something about the power of killing to incite recruitment!
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    For charts on the rise in poverty this is a site that covers ALL of ILL.
    http://www.heartlandalliance.org/wha...easnapshot.pdf

    To compare it to Ragons time there is this
    Chicago, America’s third largest city, is a case study in urban poverty.

    Chicago contains ten of the nation’s sixteen poorest neighborhoods, according to Roosevelt University urbanologist Pierre DeVise. One half of all children in the city are poor.

    The past two years have seen a dramatic increase in poverty and its effects. One of these "effects" is hunger.

    Malnutrition and hunger are evident. The Mayor’s Task Force on Hunger reported in October, 1984 that up to 50% of the infants of poor women studied at Chicago hospitals suffered from iron deficiency, caused by inadequate nutrition, which can lead to permanent behavioral and neurological disorders.

    Dr. Katherine Christoffel of The Children’s Memorial Hospital told me her hospital has documented sixteen cases of marasmus and kwasiorkor, which are starvation-related diseases, in the past four years. Generally these Third World diseases are not looked for. "If we kept good records, we would probably be shocked," she said.

    Infant mortality is high. Dr. Howard Levi, Head of Pediatrics at Mt. Sinai Hospital, believes infant mortality in Chicago’s west side ghetto rivals that of Third World countries.

    Another "effect" of poverty is violence. Dr. Levi and his staff have been tracking child abuse cases. "Poverty and stress are significant contributors to abuse–but," he cautioned, "it’s not cause and effect, not an exact equation. But these variables impact on it greatly."

    Gang violence on the west side has reached epidemic proportions. I was told by nuns and social workers at Merillac House, a Catholic settlement house, that food is used as much as drugs and money to lure teenagers to join gangs.

    In addition there is the problem of teenage pregnancy. The black community is hardest hit by this phenomenon. Merillac House has girls as young as 11 and 12 in its prenatal program.

    I focused on Chicago’s predominantly black west side ghetto. But poverty in Chicago is not limited to minorities. As steel mills and other industrial plants close down, long term unemployment is becoming increasingly common to Chicago’s "Eastern European" ethnic, Irish, and other white neighborhoods.

    ©1985 Stephen Shames
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    Quote Originally Posted by April15 View Post
    For charts on the rise in poverty this is a site that covers ALL of ILL.
    http://www.heartlandalliance.org/wha...easnapshot.pdf

    To compare it to Ragons time there is this
    Chicago, America’s third largest city, is a case study in urban poverty.

    Chicago contains ten of the nation’s sixteen poorest neighborhoods, according to Roosevelt University urbanologist Pierre DeVise. One half of all children in the city are poor.

    The past two years have seen a dramatic increase in poverty and its effects. One of these "effects" is hunger.

    Malnutrition and hunger are evident. The Mayor’s Task Force on Hunger reported in October, 1984 that up to 50% of the infants of poor women studied at Chicago hospitals suffered from iron deficiency, caused by inadequate nutrition, which can lead to permanent behavioral and neurological disorders.

    Dr. Katherine Christoffel of The Children’s Memorial Hospital told me her hospital has documented sixteen cases of marasmus and kwasiorkor, which are starvation-related diseases, in the past four years. Generally these Third World diseases are not looked for. "If we kept good records, we would probably be shocked," she said.

    Infant mortality is high. Dr. Howard Levi, Head of Pediatrics at Mt. Sinai Hospital, believes infant mortality in Chicago’s west side ghetto rivals that of Third World countries.

    Another "effect" of poverty is violence. Dr. Levi and his staff have been tracking child abuse cases. "Poverty and stress are significant contributors to abuse–but," he cautioned, "it’s not cause and effect, not an exact equation. But these variables impact on it greatly."

    Gang violence on the west side has reached epidemic proportions. I was told by nuns and social workers at Merillac House, a Catholic settlement house, that food is used as much as drugs and money to lure teenagers to join gangs.

    In addition there is the problem of teenage pregnancy. The black community is hardest hit by this phenomenon. Merillac House has girls as young as 11 and 12 in its prenatal program.

    I focused on Chicago’s predominantly black west side ghetto. But poverty in Chicago is not limited to minorities. As steel mills and other industrial plants close down, long term unemployment is becoming increasingly common to Chicago’s "Eastern European" ethnic, Irish, and other white neighborhoods.

    ©1985 Stephen Shames

    April, how can there be poverty in Chicago?

    Chicago and the entire state of IL is run for liberals by liberals. Sky high taxes, and liberalism is the law of the land no matter where you go

    Chicago and the state of Il should be Utopia


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    The last eight years have seen the biggest increase in poverty in this nation since LBJ.

    MidAmerica
    Institute on Poverty of Heartland Alliance
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    Chicago, IL 60640
    ph: 773.336.6075
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    Creating a State of Opportunity
    2007 Report on Illinois Poverty: Chicago Area Snapshot
    The seventh annual Report on Illinois Poverty
    illustrates that there are many indications Illinois
    families are experiencing significant hardship. Over
    one third of Illinoisans in poverty are children,
    disparities in income and wealth are widening, young
    adults fa

    Well it didn't copy to well.
    Poverty Summary
    For more data by county, definitions, and explanations of data sources,
    refer to the Appendix of the 2007 Report on Illinois Poverty.
    1 U.S. Census Bureau, Decennial Census 2000.
    2 U.S. Census Bureau, American Community Survey 2005.
    3 U.S. Census Bureau, Decennial Census 2000 and American Community Survey 2005, calculation conducted by the MidAmerica
    Institute on
    Poverty of Heartland Alliance.
    4 Booza, J.C., Cutsinger, J., & Galster, George. (2006, June). Where did they go? The decline of middleincome
    neighborhoods in metropolitan
    America. Living Cities Census Series. Washington DC: The Brookings Institution.
    5 Wial, H., & Friedhoof, A. (2006, July). Bearing the brunt: Manufacturing job loss in the Great Lakes Region, 19952005.
    Metro Economy Series.
    Washington DC: The Brookings Institution.
    6 U.S. Census Bureau, American Community Survey 2005.
    7 Berube, A., & Katz, B. (2005, October). Katrina’s window: Confronting concentrated poverty across America. Metropolitan Policy Program.
    Washington DC: The Brookings Institution.
    8 The United States Conference of Mayors – Sodexho, Inc. (2006, December). Hunger and homelessness survey: A status report on hunger and
    homelessness in America’s cities, a 23city
    survey. Washington DC: Author.
    9 Haas, P.M., & Makarewicz, C. (2006, June 29). Housing & transportation affordability index. Presented at the Housing + transportation: Moving
    the region toward greater affordability meeting, Chicago, IL.
    10 Rose, D.C. (2005, June). Chicago foreclosure update. Chicago: National Training and Information Center.
    11 Lipman, B.J. (2006, October). A heavy load: The combined housing and transportation burdens of working families. Washington DC: Center
    for Housing Policy.
    12 U.S. Census Bureau, Decennial Census 2000 and American Community Survey 2005, calculation conducted by the MidAmerica
    Institute on
    Poverty of Heartland Alliance.
    13 Illinois State Board of Education. (n.d.). 20052006
    State school report card. Springfield, IL: Author.
    14 Roderick, M. (2006, April). Closing the aspirationsattainment
    gap: Implications for high school reform. A commentary from Chicago. Chicago:
    MDRC.
    15 Illinois Department of Public Health. (n.d.). Illinois teen births by county. Retrieved January 2, 2007, from
    http://www.idph.state.il.us/health/teen/teen0304.htm, calculation conducted by the MidAmerica
    Institute on Poverty of Heartland Alliance.
    16 Northern Illinois Food Bank (personal communication February 1, 2007).
    17 Greater Chicago Food Depository. (2006, September). The National Hunger Study: Chicago profile. Chicago: Author.
    18 U.S. Department of Health & Human Services. (2006). Frequently asked questions related to the poverty guidelines and poverty. Retrieved
    December 21, 2006, from http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/faq.shtml#differences
    19 U.S. Department of Health & Human Services. (2007). Poverty guidelines, research, and measurement. Retrieved January 26, 2007, from
    http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/index.shtml
    20 CFED. (2007). Asset poverty. Retrieved January 2, 2007, from http://www.cfed.org/focus.m?showmeas...id=504&id=509&
    measureid=2841
    21 U.S. Census Bureau, Decennial Census 2000 and American Community Survey 2005, calculation conducted by the MidAmerica
    Institute on
    Poverty of Heartland Alliance.
    22 U.S. Census Bureau, Decennial Census 2000 and American Community Survey 2005, calculation conducted by the MidAmerica
    Institute on
    Poverty of Heartland Alliance.
    23 U.S. Census Bureau, American Community Survey 2005.
    24 National Low Income Housing Coalition. (2006). Out of reach 2006. Washington DC: Author.
    25 U.S. Census Bureau, Decennial Census 2000 and American Community Survey 2005.
    The Illinois Poverty Summit is an initiative of Heartland Alliance for Human Needs & Human Rights.
    This report can be downloaded from http://www.heartlandalliance.org/maip/research.html
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    so ill got progressively worse under obama......great....

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