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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    What? You give not quote to your 'point.' Just a nasty implication in general.

    English only please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    That stunt to make them look good to their own people and in the ME at large. They humiliated the Brits and one this round hands down. The Iranian Prez has some PR skills.
    How were the Brits humiliated exactly? The same way Charles Limburgh was? Iran kidnapped British troops. Britain decided to play the waiting game instead of responding.

    Want to take a bet the "avoid conflict" order when approcahed by Iranian vessels is rescinded? Or that British warships will now accompany their smaller vessels?

    Iran didn't win anything, nor was Britian humiliated. Isn't it people like YOU who think everyone should talk everything to death? The Brits went your route and got "humiliated." Hmmmm.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by lily View Post
    Boy......that'll show 'em!
    My personal choice would be to go in and bomb the shit out of them. But neither Bush nor Blair will listen to me. So they will settle on sanctions and softworded letters.

    What do you propose they do? besides surrender.
    When I die I'm sure to go to heaven, cause I spent my time in hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    No you said people didn't learn from 9-11. While talking about attacking Iran.

    and remember Saddam was gona nuke us too. You got that invasion, now where are the nukes.
    Clearly two separate sentences while discussing the same ilk of ostriches, not Iran specifically. You assumed, adn you assumed wrong. Simple as that.

    To add to your first assumption, you have another. All you have to do now is provide evidence that I EVER have said Saddam possessed nuclear weapons, much less intended to use them, or that I agreed with the decision to invade Iraq.

    So I didn't "got" anything.
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    Iran didn't win anything, nor was Britian humiliated.
    Their soldiers giving confessions and all on TV was pretty humiliating lokking if you ask me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    My personal choice would be to go in and bomb the shit out of them. But neither Bush nor Blair will listen to me. So they will settle on sanctions and softworded letters.

    What do you propose they do? besides surrender.
    The people who refuse to stand up these asshats now will be the ones crying the loudest later after they figure out that they are the ones who have empowered their own enemies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    Their soldiers giving confessions and all on TV was pretty humiliating lokking if you ask me.
    Nobody is asking you. Why would they? You know nothing about the military, self-defense or self-preservation. You act and talk like a coward. Nobody wants your opinion on life or death matters. If i need to find out where to get a good bottle of wine when/if I'm in your neck of the woods, i may ask you your opinion.

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    Bad idea, don't drink wine.

    Of self preservation sure but it still doesn't look great seeing them kissing Iranian ass on tv.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    I didn't say Iran WAS behind 9/11. Don't read what ain't there.
    iran wasn't behind 9/11 but they did lend support to the ones that put it together. And they currently harbor al queda operatives. iran and al queda may not like each other, but they will work together against a mutual enemy.
    When I die I'm sure to go to heaven, cause I spent my time in hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    Bad idea, don't drink wine.

    Of self preservation sure but it still doesn't look great seeing them kissing Iranian ass on tv.
    Nobody kissed Iranian ass. The Brits said, "Give'em up...if you don't, you're going to wish you had". The Iranians tried to save face by holding them for a week..but I can guarantee you, the Brits and US were shoving threats down Iran's throat. And Iran caved...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    iran wasn't behind 9/11 but they did lend support to the ones that put it together. And they currently harbor al queda operatives. iran and al queda may not like each other, but they will work together against a mutual enemy.
    Not only that, American forces have captured numerous Iranian soldiers in Iraq..and have proven that insurgents in Iraq obtained weapons from Iran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    Their soldiers giving confessions and all on TV was pretty humiliating lokking if you ask me.
    Yeah, I guess if you aren't wise enough to realize they were forced to do it, you might think that way. I saw it for the bullshit it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
    Nobody kissed Iranian ass. The Brits said, "Give'em up...if you don't, you're going to wish you had". The Iranians tried to save face by holding them for a week..but I can guarantee you, the Brits and US were shoving threats down Iran's throat. And Iran caved...
    WOW!!! This is amazing. I'd like to read about it. Do you have a link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    iran wasn't behind 9/11 but they did lend support to the ones that put it together. And they currently harbor al queda operatives. iran and al queda may not like each other, but they will work together against a mutual enemy.
    I hear ya. Hell, the government of Iran openly supports and supplies Hezbollah. IMO, Bush was just "off" by one country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liberal Nation View Post
    Yeah, um, steph calling people names doesn't get you enlightening conversation.
    How the hell did I get into this conversation, and what name did I ever call you??

    Why don't you all go pick on someone else....I'm starting to get a big head with all this admiration..
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself."
    Tullius Cicero (106-43 BC)

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