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    Default closing gitmo....

    ok.....when he closes it.....

    what do you do with the prisoners....

    are we really going to try them all in us courts......200 people.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by manu1959 View Post
    ok.....when he closes it.....

    what do you do with the prisoners....

    are we really going to try them all in us courts......200 people.....
    We should start by callong the WOT what it is: a war. (Most accurate title I've heard so far, is "The war by terrorists against us".) Then we should declare those people Prisoners of War, and treat them accordingly, as described by the Geneva Convention. This would include:

    1.) Keeping them prisoner until hostilities cease.
    2.) No torture (we already follow this rule perfectly). Interrogations, including long ones, are OK.
    3.) People found engaging in hostile acts against us, without uniforms, will be summarily executed in the field as spies.
    4.) People without uniforms found engaging in hostile acts against civilians of either side, will be summarily executed in the field.
    5.) People WITH uniforms found engaging in hostile acts against civilians of either side, will be duly tried and punished appropriately.

    ...plus more as called out in the Geneva Convention.

    I'd suggest to the people who oppose us, that they declare allegiance to one or more countries, enlist in that country's armed forces, and put on a uniform. If they don't, points 3 and 4 above, apply.

    If the terrorists start wishing they could go back to Gitmo instead, tough luck. They had that chance, and they (and their supporters) blew it.
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    I agree, we should treat our POWs in accordance with the Geneva Conventions.

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    I'd suggest to the people who oppose us, that they declare allegiance to one or more countries, enlist in that country's armed forces, and put on a uniform. If they don't, points 3 and 4 above, apply.
    Good suggestion, L-A.
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    Those who haven't been charged can be set free. Charges should have been laid in the time they have been there. For those who have been chanrged, yes, send them to trial. America arrested them, America locked them up, America can give them all a fair trial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by My Winter Storm View Post
    Those who haven't been charged can be set free. Charges should have been laid in the time they have been there. For those who have been chanrged, yes, send them to trial. America arrested them, America locked them up, America can give them all a fair trial.
    These individuals really are not "prisoners" they are terrorist!!! They were CAPTURED red handed in the act of inflicting damage, death, and destruction to US soldiers, allies, and equipment. They did not have any distinctive military markings, uniforms, or hiarchy in there command structure. Thus they were not soldiers!!!

    For your information the ones that have been set free went back to performing terrorist activities almost immediatley...

    So tell me what should we do with individuals that have NO regard for human life, have no problem killing civilians (women and children), these guys are just trash plain and simple and as such they should be properly disposed of.... Given the chance they definitly would not hesitate to put a bullet in your head or for that matter cut it off to prove a point. If all else failed they would just blow up your cafe or schoolbus to make a point as well....
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    Quote Originally Posted by My Winter Storm View Post
    Those who haven't been charged can be set free. Charges should have been laid in the time they have been there. For those who have been chanrged, yes, send them to trial. America arrested them, America locked them up, America can give them all a fair trial.
    How about they get released and sent to live with you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    How about they get released and sent to live with you?
    LOL. i like how you have a side calling for the shut down of Gitmo, yet when asked if they will house them in their states, they act surprised that you would even dream of putting them there in their home state. then where ppl? then where?

    if they put them in prinsons, most would have to be in isolation, think what some of the prisoners might do to them if they found out who they were.
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    From the words on this board about California it should be apparent that they belong here!
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    Quote Originally Posted by April15 View Post
    From the words on this board about California it should be apparent that they belong here!
    hypocrite!.....you're supposed to be against torture......
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    The gitmo is a complex debate, im sure many of the prisoners have commited terror related crimes, however, they should be tried in the countries in which they were captured. It makes no sense sending them to the US for trial. But, tell me how can these people get a fair trial?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    hypocrite!.....you're supposed to be against torture......
    Busted! Damn your good!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FSUK View Post
    The gitmo is a complex debate, im sure many of the prisoners have commited terror related crimes, however, they should be tried in the countries in which they were captured. It makes no sense sending them to the US for trial. But, tell me how can these people get a fair trial?
    With very few exceptions, I think they should be sent back to their countries of origin. We should stop trying to figure out how they'll be treated. Then Gitmo may close.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    With very few exceptions, I think they should be sent back to their countries of origin. We should stop trying to figure out how they'll be treated. Then Gitmo may close.
    Yes, i guess that is a good suggestion. Out of curiousity how many prisoners are held at gitmo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FSUK View Post
    Out of curiousity how many prisoners are held at gitmo?
    According to CNN, about 245. Twenty-one of them have been charged with crimes, and 60 others have been cleared for release, but no country has agreed to take them.
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